Silly Season January 2014

[toffeeben15]

I think bobby is playing us a bit but he could be right with the heitinga statement . I think that if Johnny doesn't leave then he knows he has some defensive midfield cover as theres no point in not playing him when he will leave in the next 6 months . If Johnny does leave then it leaves a gap for wages and a centre mid position

 

[TheFinnFan]

I think we should step up and hijack Stokes Cattermole deal

 

[toffeeblue9]

It's actually wrong really; it's even more of a gap.

I had Fellaini £60k, Neville £45-50k, Anichebe £25k... but then you've got a saving from Moyes to Martinez every week, and the backroom staff from all accounts, then Mucha £15k, Jelavic 45k, all estimates but not far off. So say around £200k a week in wages freed up.

Replaced by McCarthy on around £40k, Robles on £15k, McGeady £25-30k... and that's it. I don't count loan players, as they're one year deals; unless we plan on replacing like for like and spending just as much on wages next year for loanees then it isn't a factor.

So long term we're currently saving £100k+ a week on wages in the long term, have a transfer surplus of £20m approx (after loan fees that is!), yet we're dependent on a player with five months remaining on his deal to move on to back the manager in the pursuit of European football.

Ah ok, you don't count the money we're having to pay for loan deals. That makes sense, it's not real money after all.

A wage budget is a wage budget. Those players will be gone in the summer, but they'll be replaced with others and the wage budget will be back up to what it was, otherwise those loan players would leave in the summer and you'd moan that we weren't replacing them - that's before we get to the bit where you've basically just invented some figures on wages.

 

[thisGRAEME]

Anyone made a Riquelme joke yet?

 

[Netromelo]

David Ornstein ‏@bbcsport_david
Fulham looking to sign John Heitinga if Aaron Hughes goes to #qpr. Lewis Holtby loan deal agreed & medical done #ffc #efc #thfc #bbcfootball

 

[Tubey]

The sticking point is something has changed between the start of the window and now.

Martinez said he was going to bring in cover for the injured players - namely Gibson and Kone. Our first move was to ditch another striker, so we presumably had to then bring in two strikers and a CM. We've signed one injured striker on loan and a winger. Since then, another striker has been injured and we've lost a defender/winger for the season.

The way I see it, we are still short a striker, midfielder and defender, and Martinez admitted as much a month ago. So something has changed.

Exactly this. Since those statements, Operation Kenwright Exercise has been in full force, with John Heitinga the diversionary tactic.

 

[toffeeblue9]

The sticking point is something has changed between the start of the window and now.

Martinez said he was going to bring in cover for the injured players - namely Gibson and Kone. Our first move was to ditch another striker, so we presumably had to then bring in two strikers and a CM. We've signed one injured striker on loan and a winger. Since then, another striker has been injured and we've lost a defender/winger for the season.

The way I see it, we are still short a striker, midfielder and defender, and Martinez admitted as much a month ago. So something has changed.

He did say this, but equally he also said he was letting Jelavic and Heitinga leave. Heitinga hasn;t and we have't signed a centre mid. It's not rocket science.

The surprise is McGeady really, that's extra wages we've added on that weren't really hinted at by Martinez prior to January

 

[bitter-no-better]

We are being negative for a few reasons. 1. The Tuesday result. 2. The injury list. 3 the "how much have we got to spend". Buying new players is not going to change things dramatically as they need time to gel. Its been a good season so lets get behind the players till may.

 

[Igrok]

Wenger is so right....scrap this window...doesnt bring any good

 

[Big Fat Sam]

I think we should step up and hijack Stokes Cattermole deal

Alright now is no time for childish jokes mate.

 

[Ashtonian]

Where exactly is Heitinga at the minute?

1) Merseyside with the team?
2) Holland?
3)Turkey?
4) London??
5) Italy?

This is the Berbatov deal all over again, with sky sports asking Fergie where his player was and Fergie saying havent a clue.

 

[zirc]

I dont mind if we dont make a big signing today, but if we don't do some serious shopping in the summer it will be a travesty.

 

[ijjysmith]

Wenger is so right....scrap this window...doesnt bring any good

Except that time when we got Pienaar and Jelavic in. Was good that. For about 6 months.

 

[KevMirallas]

Come on Fulham, you know you want to. Johnny is hard as.

 

[Tubey]

Ah ok, you don't count the money we're having to pay for loan deals. That makes sense, it's not real money after all.

A wage budget is a wage budget. Those players will be gone in the summer, but they'll be replaced with others and the wage budget will be back up to what it was, otherwise those loan players would leave in the summer and you'd moan that we weren't replacing them - that's before we get to the bit where you've basically just invented some figures on wages.

Don't be facetious - wages for one season are different to accounting for wages over five years. A permanent deal is amortised on the accounts.

And what part of "approx" and "all estimates" don't you understand?