tim cahill
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I didn't say they have, but i think they'll do well in the future, and i can't say the same for the US squad.
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Sir Landon Of Donovan
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I didn't say they have, but i think they'll do well in the future, and i can't say the same for the US squad.
Essex Blue
Player Valuation: £10m
The reason I think Donovan is better than Mirallas on the right hand side is because of the huge amount of assists that Donovan makes whilst playing there. Donovan's stats are still amasing and I'm afraid that Mirallas just doesn't come close in comparison.
There is some relevance in mentioning each players international pedigree. Donovan remains the USA's best player IMO, whereas Mirallas isn't guaranteed a starting place for a team that failed to qualify for THIS SUMMER'S European Championships. If Belgium were so good they would have been at Euros this summer, and if Mirallas was that good then he would be starting for Belgium.
I think Mirallas is a good player by the way, but he is a long way off matching Landon Donovan as a right sided forward though.
There is some relevance in mentioning each players international pedigree. Donovan remains the USA's best player IMO, whereas Mirallas isn't guaranteed a starting place for a team that failed to qualify for THIS SUMMER'S European Championships. If Belgium were so good they would have been at Euros this summer, and if Mirallas was that good then he would be starting for Belgium.
I think Mirallas is a good player by the way, but he is a long way off matching Landon Donovan as a right sided forward though.
ToffeeBlueNose
Player Valuation: £30m
North America and Europe are completely different footballing animals their is no comparison at all. The competition in Europe is full on the hardest of the continent qualifying campaigns by a massive stretch so to use this argument is utter nonsense.
johnnydawg68
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Things have changed with Donovan...I don't expect him here now. He's struggled with injuries and is openly considering retirement. I think if he finds his mojo again before the summer we might see him on a free, but not expecting him in January now, which is a shame. I think the emergence of Kev makes this less of a need, although we'd clearly benefit from the depth and when fit, Donovan is a game changer for sure.
Essex Blue
Player Valuation: £10m
Who is better then, mate?
I know he is injured at the moment but there was a good article on here the other day, the statistics showed how god damn effective Donovan is as a forward, and also showed just how much the USA have missed Donovan’s absence.
ToffeeBlueNose
Player Valuation: £30m
Donovan seems to have lost his desire to even play football from what i've been reading recently. I don't care either way if he comes back or not, he should be knocking the MLS door down to get a move to the EPL and he really isn't that arsed is he.
Essex Blue
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The group in which Belgium failed to qualify for this summer's Euros included a host of massive footballing nations such as Austria, Azerbaijan, Turkey and Borat’s very own Kazakhstan.
Belgium’s current qualifying group for the World Cup includes some other massive European footbaling nations, like Scotland and Wales.
Don't know why people are surprised he's thinking of retirement. Just because you're getting paid thousands and thousands per week doesn't mean you don't experience the same job fatigue and sense of tedium as you do in any other job. A lot of footballers question themselves at that age when they realise their career is on a downward slope towards retirement.
pfim
Player Valuation: £40m
On form, Dempsey and Bradley certainly. Cherundolo might be better than them all, but tough to say your RB is the best player as he doesn't quite have the same impact.
The US need him, mind you, but this isn't like Pienaar playing for SA. Donovan isn't head and shoulders above most in that squad at the moment.
At any rate, if Donovan somehow gets to Goodison in January, barring injury, I think you see Fellaini drop back and Mirallas pick up a central role, which is where I think he's better anyway.
ToffeeBlueNose
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You said last 10 years mate, have you checked back at their other qualifying groups if that's your argument. Are you saying it's easy to qualify in europe??
Donovan has never played at a high level other than his 2 loan spells here, he bombed in Germany. Mirallas has at least played his football in europe albeit in Greece and France.
The players Belgium have are the current widely regarded best young stars in europe and they have a team full of them. They might not gel as a team but individually and the clubs they all play for tells you that the standard of player they have is very high.
Now tell me which clubs half the USA team play for and see if what you are saying is nonesense. As a team yes USA play better because they have a work ethic, you could argue Belgiums problem is the opposite they are all talented individuals but to say Mirallas doesn't even get into a very talented Belgium side is laughable.
pfim
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The US lost to Belgium 1-0 in a friendly last year in Belgium. The differences between the squads really isn't that great. The top end of Belgium's talent is probably better (Fellaini, Hazard, Kompany) but whenever I watch them play, they look like 11 individuals, not a team that can accomplish much.
Essex Blue
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I can’t really speak for the other two, but I’d have Donovan and his absolutely insane rate of assists over Dempsey any day of the week
A different topic, but anyone waiting for Fellaini to drop back into CM will be in for a long wait IMO. Moyes has had plenty of opportunity to drop him back there, and he’s deployed him in the advanced role time after time.
He's played him at central mid a lot, too to be fair. Like pretty much every game before we sold Cahill. But yeah I think he's going to be playing mostly in his current position and I think it suits us to play him there so fair enough.
I think we're only going to be starting one other attacker if Fellaini, Pienaar and Jelavic are fit and that's at RM. We buy Donovan and one of him and Mirallas will be starting on the bench. Which is good if we can afford it, nice to have strong bench.
Bend it like Hinchcliffe
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Landon once let me use his forehead to get a hair out of my eye. Hes great.
His freshness?? and pace in the second half of the season will always be productive.
His freshness?? and pace in the second half of the season will always be productive.
pfim
Player Valuation: £40m
I don't know that I agree with the Fellaini comments. I think when you have guys like Mirallas, Pienaar, Donovan, Fellaini etc they can play interchanging roles. If Gibson is healthy, then you have him playing behind Fellaini. If we need Fellaini's height up front, then you drop one of the others into the CM role.
A lot will depend on opponent as well. If you were going to name Fellaini's position against Liverpool, I guess it would be AM, but his assignment was to shut down Allen and didn't play the same type of role he played against ManU.
For some reason Moyes as this aura of being predictable around here, but he's anything but predictable in his tactics.
A lot will depend on opponent as well. If you were going to name Fellaini's position against Liverpool, I guess it would be AM, but his assignment was to shut down Allen and didn't play the same type of role he played against ManU.
For some reason Moyes as this aura of being predictable around here, but he's anything but predictable in his tactics.
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