Some of our fans today...

[Blue peter]

I couldnt give a sh!t. They're taking us down. They got all the support they could have possibly got last year. And now revert to bottling it again.

Spare me if i dont cry over them being them being upset over a few words.

That’s the issue though isn’t it? Yes it was a few words but at the time no one knows if it escalated into something more. No one should be fearful of potential violence just because of a game of football. some of these players have barely turned 20. I am a manager in work and I know I get more out of my staff if I praise them and encourage them than if I threaten them with the sack.

Any anti social behaviour like what we saw yesterday has to be called out and condemned. It’s getting to the point now where our best chance of survival is probably away from home. What did Vlasic say a few years back? That the players were terrified of playing at Goodson.

 

[Pabbers]

Sporting Lisbon fans did something similar to what our fans did?

Are you seriously comparing Gordon getting chased to a massive assault?

A group of 'fans' broke into Sporting Lisbon's training facility and attacked its players, according to reports from Portugal.​

About 50 hooded men forced their way into Alcochete, Sporting Lisbon's training complex, on Tuesday, O Jogo reports.


The group managed to gain access to the locker room, where they allegedly attacked several players including Bas Dost, Josip Misic and Rodrigo Battaglia. Photos of a sizeable cut Dost sustained on his forehead during the incident have begun doing the rounds online.


You have to be trolling

I said something similar to whats started at sporting.

Symantics.

 

[Dixie1sixty]

While I do not condone the actions of a tiny minority of people, football is a sport that is well known for passionate fans. They make billions from the passionate nature of the fans. Suddenly that passion is not wanted when it doesn’t suit them, sorry we cannot turn off our passion when you want.

What an ill thought out argument. You're characterising intimidating and reprehensible behaviour as passion???

 

[Blue peter]

Just to add to my previous post as well the only way the protest will carry any meaning of success is if we call it out, otherwise we condone in silence and look like a militant protest group.

 

[Gordon Lee's Cushion]

What an ill thought out argument. You're characterising intimidating and reprehensible behaviour as passion???

Nope, I specifically stated I do not condone the actions of a tiny minority, Please do not try to speak for me until you have learned to read.

 

[kenada_blue]

They play in front of fans so they should be fair game for anything?

As custodians of the club, we should think about how those actions impact our clubs reputation. These players might leave, but we won't replace them with others who will rightly look at that behaviour and think 'nope'.

Club's rep is in the sink mate. We're Leeds United mark 2. Poorly ran, about to be relegated, key example of how "not to run a football club".

1 feller chasing Gordon down the street in his £90k Land Rover isn't gonna do anything apart from make other clubs fans who are having it pretty easy, laugh.

No one's been attacked. Punched. Killed. They've had angry fans voicing their anger. That's part of football. Just like cheering them on is.

 

[davek]

My sentiments exactly.

Attacking our own players’ cars and making us look like idiots on tv is not going to achieve anything.

It certainly won’t make our players perform better.

The "aims" of that protest yesterday were completely unachievable and in the end have been self defeating. It needed to be about club transfer business and the issue of a failing manager.

The owner and board do need to go ASAP, but the messaging and timing of this was all wrong. The more responsible organisers of the protests and the week long agitation that led up to it were kidding themselves that their pleas to keep a lid on being over-zealous would be listened to. It's been a huge blow to our chances of survival. They made matters worse rather than better.

I was 100% behind mass protests to achieve managerial change and player recruitment, and still am. But the calls right now for the removal of the board and especially the owner are unsupportable. There's a script that needed to be stuck to on dealing with those people, it was a battle for another day. We've all been badly let down by the architects of yesterday. The damage is enormous because they've squandered a chance - perhaps the only chance - to get out of this mess, and they've cemented the manager in place and made the prospect of attracting players this January almost a pipe dream.

 

[Wat Tyler]

I said something similar to whats started at sporting.

Symantics.

Ok, our thoughts on what similar seem to be different then. Wildly different. Everton are similar to Real Madrid to you

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Such a good point.

We might think that our players should be immune to constant abuse from their own fans, but at the end of the day they’re young guys. Human beings.

We as fans need to own the part we have played in our club’s demise.

It’s gone too far. I cannot imagine we begin to change it. We are moany bastards

 

[Gareth Gibson]

Do they play in an office like regular people or in empty stadiums? No they play in front of fans, for fans, that the club is built on.

The fans are the custodians of the club hundreds of years before and after them. So if they're upset...I've no problems with what they're doing. The players should expect it due to where we are

If you want cheering and celebrating, you have to expect the negative side too.

If not. Leave.

Also...let's not pretend we're the only clubs fans who've done it. Go see Juve, Real, Porto, Barca fans etc when things aren't going well. Some club's fans invade the training grounds ffs

Would you willingly be abused and intimidated?

We castigate these players we currently have, but no new signings will come here after what happened to Gordon and the other lads.

Not unless they’re desperate.

 

[Gilbert..]

But its out their, the club and media have said it…thats enough, doesn't even need to be true.

The footage shows quite a number of fans blocking the roads, recording and shouting/screaming stuff, so lets not pretend it didn’t happen.

They were blocking the road and screaming stuff last sesson. Asking for them to put in a performance as they didnt want to see something very important to them get relegated.

Both instances are frustration on two scales. Neither should really be required.

 

[Pabbers]

Ok, our thoughts on what similar seem to be different then. Wildly different. Everton are similar to Real Madrid to you

Its turned violent, thats it.

And its unacceptable.

 

[Dixie1sixty]

Nope, I specifically stated I do not condone the actions of a tiny minority, Please do not try to speak for me until you have learned to read.

Yes and then in the next sentence suggested that we cannot condemn what you describe as passion because it's an integral part of football Please express yourself without inherent contradiction if you want to make a salient point.

 

[dannyboy]

It has happened to big clubs though, and they never attacked owners and players.

Liverpool fans wanted fsg out for not spending money….our owner has spent loads and delivered us a stadium…

Villa went down and hated their owner, but are back up and doing ok.

Leeds same.

Newcastle the same.

Other clubs have gone even further down, and what fans have stayed seem to be relatively happy watching their team compete at the games.

Sporting Lisbon fans did something similar to whats started yesterday with ours….and their players ripped up contracts and left the club.

Lazio and some ultras at other clubs attack training grounds…and seem more similar to what we are doing now.

Its all very horrible, ugly and toxic.

Ask Paul Konchesky and Roy Hodgson how they feel about their time at Liverpool.

Paul Konchesky: I struggled in Liverpool; the fans are in control

Paul Konchesky admits he experienced "difficult times" at Liverpool but still describes his disappointing five months at Anfield as a "privilege".

www.planetfootball.com

Ask Micah Richards if his time at Aston Villa was a particularly nice one.

Villa fans argue with Richards

Micah Richards is confronted by angry Aston Villa fans during the 1-1 draw with Wycombe Wanderers in the third round of the FA Cup.

www.bbc.com

 

[Nymzee]

Its turned violent, thats it.

And its unacceptable.

Where was the violence yesterday?