Some of our fans today...

[Pabbers]

Where’s the violence?

You keep saying a director was attacked, where’s the evidence of this? Have the police got the culprit in custody? Has he been charged?

All the doesn't matter, it happened now and the rest of the world think its happened.

Dont you see that??!!

 

[Gareth Gibson]

You are worried about taking us down, yet all this does is it make it harder to bring in the right players to come help and drain any goodwill of the players here to try and get out of this mess. It's just doubling down the chances of that happening.

The disgruntled fans could have lined the roads and held up banners and the point would have been made, block roads and the players will be fearing an attack and whatever way you look at that, from a human point of view that is something no one should have to go through.

So very true.

Who would want to play for us now? Or manager us, for that matter?

I’ve never known scenes like that in English football. Not in recent years anyway.

 

[Blue peter]

I said something similar to whats started at sporting.

Symantics.

So basically we have had to trawl Europe and get to Portugal to find an example of fan disgruntlement directly with the players. That example is worse than ours admittedly, but other than Utd fans getting into Old Trafford last year, which was not directed at players, I daunt recall another example like ours yesterday (although I stand to be corrected)

 

[Bluedyhell]

The "aims" of that protest yesterday were completely unachievable and in the end have been self defeating. It needed to be about club transfer business and the issue of a failing manager.

The owner and board do need to go ASAP, but the messaging and timing of this was all wrong. The more responsible organisers of the protests and the week long agitation that led up to it were kidding themselves that their pleas to keep a lid on being over-zealous would be listened to. It's been a huge blow to our chances of survival. They made matters worse rather than better.

I was 100% behind mass protests to achieve managerial change and player recruitment, and still am. But the calls right now for the removal of the board and especially the owner are unsupportable. There's a script that needed to be stuck to on dealing with those people, it was a battle for another day. We've all been badly let down by the architects of yesterday. The damage is enormous because they've squandered a chance - perhaps the only chance - to get out of this mess, and they've cemented the manager in place and made the prospect of attracting players this January almost a pipe dream.

Spot on. Sadly Lampard will stay in post now. For Lampard to imply being in a relegation scrap last year is a justification for why we are in one ths year is a sham. To remind him: he has bought 7/8 players who we were all told were just what we needed, had the summer and winter break to mould them into a team and yet not a bit of difference on the pitch.in fact worse. Lampard has to go first then deal with the board later.

 

[davek]

Agree with most of that, except the last sentence.

The well is dry, our owner isn’t getting his ‘funds’ from his friend any more. There’s no money for players unless we sell. He won’t even put in the money to sack this bumbling idiot in charge of the team and his useless staff.

Then we have the DoF out in Spain last week on holiday if that was the case.

The stumbling block to new players is definitley cash, but the manager is getting off scot-free here. If a club like Southampton can sack a manager and get a new one in it isn't beyond us to do so. Lampard will get until next Saturday beflore being sacked now thiugh (the last game Moshiri sounded like he was prepared to hand him in that TalkSport interview). But we're needelessly going into that game with him in charge and an almost certain loss of all three precious points. The owner and board would have sacked Lampard yesterday if the fans demanded it...and would have before now.

The owner and board need ousting - but this was never the time for that. It's a clueles strategist whoever thought it was.

 

[Gilbert..]

You are worried about taking us down, yet all this does is it make it harder to bring in the right players to come help and drain any goodwill of the players here to try and get out of this mess. It's just doubling down the chances of that happening.

The disgruntled fans could have lined the roads and held up banners and the point would have been made, block roads and the players will be fearing an attack and whatever way you look at that, from a human point of view that is something no one should have to go through.

I dont disagree. But its pure frustration. Its time and time again they go into their shell and it might be a cliche but i honestly think many assembled at this club on the playing staff dont care enough.
They might have got the message yesterday it matters to some. If not them. Its not great though either way.

 

[d0rk]

Not even convinced they are fans, society unfortunately breeds violent horrible individuals who jump on any opportunity to act out their moronic behaviour. Fan protests are a perfect vehicle for the parasites. They exist throughout the UK and worldwide. This was always going to happen.

We didn't see the same behaviour from fans at any of the three clubs relegated last season?

 

[IrishBlue2022]

So basically we have had to trawl Europe and get to Portugal to find an example of fan disgruntlement directly with the players. That example is worse than ours admittedly, but other than Utd fans getting into Old Trafford last year, which was not directed at players, I daunt recall another example like ours yesterday (although I stand to be corrected)

Celtic in 2020. After one game some fans tried to attack the team bus the players were on (They got beat but were still 2nd in the league) and after another game objects were thrown at players (their 35 game cup run ended).

I enjoyed pointing this out to a friend who was trying to give me stick for the behaviour of a minority of Everton fans yesterday.

 

[blue61]

You might want to Google the definition of violence.

At the very least, it's bullying and intimidation and should no be accepted as passion.

 

[Nymzee]

At the very least, it's bullying and intimidation and should no be accepted as passion.

Never said it was acceptable. Just disagree with people saying fans were violent yesterday. It’s a lie and just makes the club statement yesterday sound true.

 

[Dixie1sixty]

At the very least, it's bullying and intimidation and should no be accepted as passion.

It's totally inexcusable behaviour and if we don't make our voices heard in calling it out, or even be seen to condone it, it could very easily degenerate into acts of "frustration" that totally destroy the fans' and the club's reputation.

 

[Blue peter]

Celtic in 2020. After one game some fans tried to attack the team bus the players were on (They got beat but were still 2nd in the league) and after another game objects were thrown at players (their 35 game cup run ended).

I enjoyed pointing this out to a friend who was trying to give me stick for the behaviour of a minority of Everton fans yesterday.

Wow wasn’t aware of that - absolutely abhorrent behaviour

 

[davek]

Spot on. Sadly Lampard will stay in post now. For Lampard to imply being in a relegation scrap last year is a justification for why we are in one ths year is a sham. To remind him: he has bought 7/8 players who we were all told were just what we needed, had the summer and winter break to mould them into a team and yet not a bit of difference on the pitch.in fact worse. Lampard has to go first then deal with the board later.

Lampard now has the perfect cover to continue to fail and present it as him being let down (he has been, but his own poor management has been as important). This is all about saving his career as a manager. He'll cynically explout this...and that lost opportunity yesterday to oust him allows him to do that.

 

[davek]

Relegation under this lot I would agree.

They wont go anywhere anytime soon...certainly the owner wont.

 

[IrishBlue2022]

Wow wasn’t aware of that - absolutely abhorrent behaviour

Links below:

Celtic team bus comes chased down as police forced into action

Planned protests outside the stadium following the latest poor result were kept in check but things did spill over.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk

Celtic to probe ugly scenes outside stadium after Ross County defeat

Celtic's defeat to Ross County sparked ugly scenes when a mob of around 200 supporters gathered outside the mains stand. Videos showed yobs throwing missiles at players' cars.

www.dailymail.co.uk