Some of our fans today...

[Wat Tyler]

Its turned violent, thats it.

And its unacceptable.

Where’s the violence?

You keep saying a director was attacked, where’s the evidence of this? Have the police got the culprit in custody? Has he been charged?

 

[Gareth Gibson]

The "aims" of that protest yesterday were completely unachievable and in the end have been self defeating. It needed to be about club transfer business and the issue of a failing manager.

The owner and board do need to go ASAP, but the messaging and timing of this was all wrong. The more responsible organisers of the protests and the week long agitation that led up to it were kidding themselves that their pleas to keep a lid on being over-zealous would be listened to. It's been a huge blow to our chances of survival. They made matters worse rather than better.

I was 100% behind mass protests to achieve managerial change and player recruitment, and still am. But the calls right now for the removal of the board and especially the owner are unsupportable. There's a script that needed to be stuck to on dealing with those people, it was a battle for another day. We've all been badly let down by the architects of yesterday. The damage is enormous because they;ve squandered a chance - perhaps the only chance - to get out of this mess by cementing the manger in placed and making the prospect of attracting player this January almost a pipe dream.

Absolutely correct.

Really well articulated.

Once again the stupidity of some our fans has cost us dear.

What we needed in the immediacy was a change of manager and some incoming transfers. That now won’t happen, partly because no one in their right mind looking at yesterday’s scenes would want to join this club. No one would want to have their car attacked by large groups of young thugs.

 

[Gareth Gibson]

Where was the violence yesterday?

Banging on someone’s car windows constitutes violence, screaming abuse constitutes violence, blocking roads to trap people constitutes violence.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Club's rep is in the sink mate. We're Leeds United mark 2. Poorly ran, about to be relegated, key example of how "not to run a football club".

1 feller chasing Gordon down the street in his £90k Land Rover isn't gonna do anything apart from make other clubs fans who are having it pretty easy, laugh.

No one's been attacked. Punched. Killed. They've had angry fans voicing their anger. That's part of football. Just like cheering them on is.

Would you have preferred it if he was driving a Dacia Sandero?

It wasn't in the ground they were shouting abuse and voicing their anger. It wasn't in his workplace, it was on the way home in a street.

It's not 'part of football'. Let's not pretend it is.

 

[Nymzee]

Banging on someone’s car windows constitutes violence, screaming abuse constitutes violence, blocking roads to trap people constitutes violence.

You might want to Google the definition of violence.

 

[kenada_blue]

Would you willingly be abused and intimidated?

We castigate these players we currently have, but no new signings will come here after what happened to Gordon and the other lads.

Not unless they’re desperate.

Were joint bottom of the league with no money....we blaming the fans for no signings too?

Again..can't hack it. Put a transfer request in. Or take your £40+k a week and put no effort in and take what's coming.

 

[Gordon Lee's Cushion]

The "aims" of that protest yesterday were completely unachievable and in the end have been self defeating. It needed to be about club transfer business and the issue of a failing manager.

The owner and board do need to go ASAP, but the messaging and timing of this was all wrong. The more responsible organisers of the protests and the week long agitation that led up to it were kidding themselves that their pleas to keep a lid on being over-zealous would be listened to. It's been a huge blow to our chances of survival. They made matters worse rather than better.

I was 100% behind mass protests to achieve managerial change and player recruitment, and still am. But the calls right now for the removal of the board and especially the owner are unsupportable. There's a script that needed to be stuck to on dealing with those people, it was a battle for another day. We've all been badly let down by the architects of yesterday. The damage is enormous because they've squandered a chance - perhaps the only chance - to get out of this mess, and they've cemented the manager in place and made the prospect of attracting players this January almost a pipe dream.

Agree with most of that, except the last sentence.

The well is dry, our owner isn’t getting his ‘funds’ from his friend any more. There’s no money for players unless we sell. He won’t even put in the money to sack this bumbling idiot in charge of the team and his useless staff.

 

[Time For Vitor]

Thought it was a quite magical irony that Gordon ended up going down yet another road to nowhere.

 

[Wat Tyler]

Absolutely correct.

Really well articulated.

Once again the stupidity of some our fans has cost us dear.

What we needed in the immediacy was a change of manager and some incoming transfers. That now won’t happen, partly because no one in their right mind looking at yesterday’s scenes would want to join this club. No one would want to have their car attacked by large groups of young thugs.

And there it is… the fans are to blame.

You’ve bought the club narrative hook like and sinker

 

[Buckers]

You can’t condone this sort of thing and we should remember it is still just a game. This sort of reaction though I feel is less surprising in the current day and age. I also think the money is a big part of it. There was probably always going to come a point where the have nots started waking up and realising that these guys are multi millionaires and that makes them different from the rest of us. Yet they can be reached unlike the Moshiris of the world in their ivory towers. The players are just pawns though in a much larger more corrupt game that goes on well above our heads. They think they are hotshit but really they are just billionaires playthings.

Humans are tribal, football is very tribal and the mess the country is in will only deepen these divides. A Tory government for over a decade has caused this. What happened to equality and diversity, the world changed when those b4stards got in. This is the consequence, the only way to fight back against all of this is through peace and love. Values that are getting lost amongst all the pain.

 

[Gilbert..]

That’s the issue though isn’t it? Yes it was a few words but at the time no one knows if it escalated into something more. No one should be fearful of potential violence just because of a game of football. some of these players have barely turned 20. I am a manager in work and I know I get more out of my staff if I praise them and encourage them than if I threaten them with the sack.

Any anti social behaviour like what we saw yesterday has to be called out and condemned. It’s getting to the point now where our best chance of survival is probably away from home. What did Vlasic say a few years back? That the players were terrified of playing at Goodson.

Football is very different to a lot of other things though. It creates passion and emotion. Its a fine line i agree. But its not exclusive to Everton. Im reading people say this hasnt happened elsewhere. It certainly has. Everton players were not the first ever players to be told outside a ground they're not committed enough.

 

[Jebus_lives]

And there it is… the fans are to blame.

You’ve bought the club narrative hook like and sinker

He said some fans. Not all fans.

 

[Gareth Gibson]

You might want to Google the definition of violence.

‘An unjust or unwarranted exertion of force’.


Surely hammering on someone’s windows and then trapping them with road blocks falls into that category.

 

[Nymzee]

‘An unjust or unwarranted exertion of force’.


Surely hammering on someone’s windows and then trapping them with road blocks falls into that category.

Nope. Try again.

You can call it aggressive, or intimidating, or whatever you like but it is not violence.

 

[The binman chronicles]

I couldnt give a sh!t. They're taking us down. They got all the support they could have possibly got last year. And now revert to bottling it again.

Spare me if i dont cry over them being them being upset over a few words.

You are worried about taking us down, yet all this does is it make it harder to bring in the right players to come help and drain any goodwill of the players here to try and get out of this mess. It's just doubling down the chances of that happening.

The disgruntled fans could have lined the roads and held up banners and the point would have been made, block roads and the players will be fearing an attack and whatever way you look at that, from a human point of view that is something no one should have to go through.