Southampton v Everton. 26th April at 12.45.

[DanEFC92]

Lads, grow up and take the kopite banter on the chin and don't have a wee cry about it xox

 

[deipnosophist]

Kone followed his religion compassionately, i do not knock him for that and tbh I don't think you should either. professional footballer or not he has a right to do whatever he believes in, and i'm pretty sure his injury is nothing to do with that - although i'm not saying it couldn't have had an effect.

Kone sustained a knee injury didn't he?. Don't think that is an injury you can connect to observing Ramadan. I

 

[Garrick]

EVERYBODY PIPE DOWN, DRINK YOUR BLEACH, AND GET READY FOR ZÜRICH AWAY NEXT YEAR.

EH LADS?

EH?!

 

[toffeepie1878]

*sigh

 

[deipnosophist]

...realise I just repeated what you said lol

 

[Del]

Hardly a like-for-like comparison is it pal. Coleman has contributed ever so slightly more than Alcaraz, don't you think? Your point is somewhat flawed.



Probably didn't make it clear - I'm not knocking him for following his religion: I'm knocking us for signing him, knowing he was going to starve himself in accordance with his religion. Depriving a professional athlete's body of sustenance during preseason training is a bit dense, and I suspect is not recommended by many doctors.

Coleman 34 games

Alcaraz 4 games

So obviously he's contributed more hence Abraders saying he was a back up player

 

[davek]

Martinez reckoned the "psychological blow" of conceding the two own goals was the reason we weren't "ourselves" today..

Finding that difficult to accept tbh... these fellas are supposed to be professional footballers aren't they? You don't automatically just stop trying in a situation like that..

On the BBC he said they let the scoreline affect them. I think he's spot on, tbh. It was as though 50 seconds into the game they mentally packed up and wanted to be on the bus going home. That's a chronic attitude to project. We saw it atWest Brom in a similar fashion (though I'd put that WBA performance way above this one in terms of at least being at the races).

 

[roydo]

I agree. Lets move on please without all the "Kopite" nonsense. As has been said before, if a post annoys/upsets anyone, then report it.

Back to the match. Not great really.

 

[Abraders]

Hardly a like-for-like comparison is it pal. Coleman has contributed ever so slightly more than Alcaraz, don't you think? Your point is somewhat flawed.


Probably didn't make it clear - I'm not knocking him for following his religion: I'm knocking us for signing him, knowing he was going to starve himself in accordance with his religion. Depriving a professional athlete's body of sustenance during preseason training is a bit dense, and I suspect is not recommended by many doctors.

That is fair then, sorry for misunderstanding! In which case, yeah I agree, but on the other hand Martinez obviously wanted to play it safe and sign players he knew were good for him.

And yeah hence the alcaraz was brought in to be a backup player mate! Just don't think the criticism is warranted, when it wasn't exactly all his fault that we lost. He looked very comfortable against united for example, (i know we were 2-0 up) and we weren't slating him then

 

[detroiturk15]

This season has been better than last season, and next season will probably be better than this season. 4th place is off but there are worse things than being in the drivers seat for fifth.

 

[BlueLlama]

I don't get to see mnay live games but that was the worst I have seen them play in ages. No pace or movement up front, out muscled in midfield and suspect at the back.
Only Stones and McCarthy turned up. Whythe hell Deulofeu was on teh left I have no idea - he clearly wasnt confident and Clyne knew that all he would do was check back onto hsi right.

 

[Tree13]

Coleman 34 games

Alcaraz 4 games

So obviously he's contributed more hence Abraders saying he was a back up player

Meaning what then? He's great when he doesn't play? FFS, by that logic you, me and Abraders should be in the squad. His point was that Coleman scored an OG today too, therefore suggesting that calling Alcaraz out for doing so would require the same criticism of Coleman - hence my pointing out that such a comparison would be flawed and false because, as you so adroitly pointed out, Coleman's played 30 games - because he's a BETTER PLAYER.

 

[Del]

Meaning what then? He's great when he doesn't play? FFS, by that logic you, me and Abraders should be in the squad. His point was that Coleman scored an OG today too, therefore suggesting that calling Alcaraz out for doing so would require the same criticism of Coleman - hence my pointing out that such a comparison would be flawed and false because, as you so adroitly pointed out, Coleman's played 30 games - because he's a BETTER PLAYER.

Slating a player for scoring an OG is daft, Its a freak, Can happen to any player

I think he's looked fine when he's played and he's only used when everyone else is unavalible, Would you find a good young CB willing to sit on the bench for weeks on end knowing they will not get a game unless others are out

 

[canucklehead]

It's not unheard of for athletes to get exemptions from Ramadan in order to pursue their sport. Nazem Kadri for the Leafs is the example that is closest at hand for me, but I'm sure their are more.

 

[LinekersLegs]

I don't get to see mnay live games but that was the worst I have seen them play in ages. No pace or movement up front, out muscled in midfield and suspect at the back.
Only Stones and McCarthy turned up. Whythe hell Deulofeu was on teh left I have no idea - he clearly wasnt confident and Clyne knew that all he would do was check back onto hsi right.

Naismith also looked pretty poor on the wing again and Barkley wilted under the gaze of Hodgeson again.

In retrospect might have been better Mcgeady in right, naismith as #10 and Barkley/Osman on left wing ie how we ended but by then the mental damage was done.

At least martinez seems to generally recognise when he's got things wrong.