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Stadium Thread - ALL Kirkby/Stadium Discussion Here

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Yerra what are ye moving to Kirby for?Yerra i thought ye were supposed to be the peoples club.Yerra dont ye know Shankly started the real peoples club in 59.

What the hell is Yerra, you immigrant Noweigen Window licker.
 
Yerra what are ye moving to Kirby for?Yerra i thought ye were supposed to be the peoples club.Yerra dont ye know Shankly started the real peoples club in 59.

If you mean by "real people," Scandinavians and bandwagon jumping American fans who couldn't point Liverpool out on a map, then yes, you are correct.
 
If you mean by "real people," Scandinavians and bandwagon jumping American fans who couldn't point Liverpool out on a map, then yes, you are correct.

....Liverpool obviously didn't exist until this shankly fella came along according to this guy.
 
Everton FC Kirkby stadium scheme in jeopardy

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PLANS for Everton FC’s new stadium in Kirkby could be “killed off” if the scheme is called in for a public inquiry, says the chief executive of Knowsley.
The warning comes after Sefton council’s planning committee, as expected, formally objected to the plan last night.
Sheena Ramsey said plans for the £400m Tesco-led scheme, which includes a new 50,000-seat Everton stadium, would be severely jeopardised by a government call-in, almost certainly delaying the project by up to a year.
Her comments come days after Everton FC chief executive Keith Wyness admitted he was concerned about the effect of a potential Government-run inquiry.
The stark warnings are based on the darkening economic outlook. It is indicated that the money assembled for this scheme, both by Everton and Tesco, will not be available indefinitely. They point to the impact of the credit crunch elsewhere.
Ms Ramsey is making everyone aware that the stakes could not be higher, believing that not only the major redevelopment of Kirkby, but the whole credibility of the Merseyside City Region, is on the line.
Knowsley officials believe the scheme is a crucial test of whether the different councils on Merseyside can recognise that the proposal is good for the sub- region as a whole.
Ms Ramsey dismisses any hopes of reviving a joint Liverpool/Everton stadium plan as “bizarre”.
Ms Ramsey said: “This is a huge opportunity to show Westminster, which sees Merseyside as dysfunctional, that we can get our act together.”
Yesterday, the Daily Post revealed how Liverpool City Council had deferred a potential objection to the bid because Tesco had agreed to slash the retail element of the plan by 25%.
But last night members of Sefton council planning committee went ahead and unanimously lodged an objection to the scheme, in line with off- icers’ recommendations. This decision, however, was based on Tesco’s original proposal, rather than the revised scheme.
The question is whether the plan for a stadium, Tesco superstore and shops in Kirkby town centre can be accommodated without unduly affecting retailers in Sefton, St Helens, Skelmersdale (which has its own major retail plans), and Liverpool One.
Everton FC spokesman Ian Ross said: “We remain hopeful that the application will go straight through without being called in.
“But we’ve outlined the possible consequences of such a call-in. Before all that, we must wait to see what the borough council’s planning department has to say.”
Michael Kissman, of Tesco, said: “I don’t think anyone here wants to jeopardise this. This is something Kirkby has not seen for a generation.”
Speaking last month, Mr Wyness said: “We are concerned about the long-term ramifications of a Government call-in.”


Their just not going to let this lie are they!! Pisses me off.

We'll stay at goodison an become a good championship side.:@:@
 

Wyness is also hopeful that there will soon be news on Everton's proposals for a new stadium.



"We are getting towards the planning situation, it is a very complex world the planning world," said Wyness.



"We are hoping in the next few months we will have some firm decisions and have a spade in the ground very soon.



"It will be May or June before any planning decision of any consequence."



http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3536892,00.html
 
OOOOooooP's

Everton FC send legal letter to Japanese dental practice

EVERTON have been left red-faced after addressing a threatening legal letter intended for campaign group Keep Everton In Our City (Keioc) to a Japanese dental practice.
Lawyers for the Blues sent the correspondence by email to the Keioc website.
But they did not check that they had the right address and sent it to an orthodontist surgery 5,800 miles away.
The news comes as it emerged last night members of Sefton council’s planning committee have formally objected to plans for the club’s new stadium in Kirkby.
In the email the club threatened to sue Keioc over assertions on their website that the Everton fans’ ballot over the stadium move last summer was unfair.
Colin Fitzpatrick, secretary of Keioc, said: “We received a letter from chief exec Keith Wyness via the Keioc email address. It was threatening legal action. It was addressed to keioc.com not keioc.net but we don’t even own the site.
“We complied with their requests on some things but not on others. There has not been any legal action taken – it has only ever been a threat. We are not losing any sleep over it.”
The ECHO checked out the email address and traced it to the dental surgery.
A spokesman for the club last night denied they had issued writs against anyone.
Yesterday Liverpool council deferred a potential objection to the new Everton stadium because Tesco had agreed to slash the retail element of the plan by 25%.
But last night members of Sefton council planning committee unanimously lodged an objection to the scheme.
Their decision, however, was based on Tesco’s original proposal.
Knowsley council chief executive Sheena Ramsey said plans for the £400m Tesco-led scheme, which includes a new 50,000-seat stadium, would be severely jeopardised by a government call-in, almost certainly delaying the project by up to a year.
Everton FC spokesman Ian Ross said: “We remain hopeful that the application will go straight through without being called in.
“But we’ve outlined the possible consequences of such a call-in. Before all that, we must wait to see what the borough council’s planning department has to say.”
Michael Kissman, of Tesco, said: “I don’t think anyone wants to jeopardise this. ”
 
Just seen Wyness on SSN, he seems pretty confident of hearing something positive by the end of the mth/early june

Wyness...'contracts could be signed by September' - September 2007, that is!!!

Wyness...'spade in the ground by June'.


:lol:

Good old Keith, the only man who will have screwed up three ground moves in his career.
 
Kirkby will be a noose around EFCs neck until it has squeezed the life breath out of it. Stupid location, rubbish stadium, nightmare travel for most fans and a totally crap commercial concept as far as corporate entertainment goes. BK / KW might get a few boxes sold but I bet they wouldnt come back in too much of a hurry, not to Kirkby. Different scenario if the ground was in town ( Kings Dock...sigh ) or The Loop or even at a redeveloped GP. Goodison can be redeveloped, The Loop is possible, Walton Hall Park would be great, Stanley Park would have been great. This bloody Kirkby debacle started out as 55000, its now been reduced to 50000, if it goes any lower, what is the point of moving from Goodison when it would definately cost less to develope it than building a new ground on a different site / location.
Bloody Kenwright is a liar and Wyness is an obese ugly liar. If they say we cant afford it then *uck them. How can we afford 78, 100 or 130Million especially on a further reduced capacity. They are keeping very quiet about the anticipated gate revenue, but they have to get in more than 10Mill extra or again, what is the point. Moving grounds is massive. Kenwright and Wyness are NOT capable of doing the best for the long term future of Everton FC !
 

Kirkby will be a noose around EFCs neck until it has squeezed the life breath out of it. Stupid location, rubbish stadium, nightmare travel for most fans and a totally crap commercial concept as far as corporate entertainment goes. BK / KW might get a few boxes sold but I bet they wouldnt come back in too much of a hurry, not to Kirkby. Different scenario if the ground was in town ( Kings Dock...sigh ) or The Loop or even at a redeveloped GP. Goodison can be redeveloped, The Loop is possible, Walton Hall Park would be great, Stanley Park would have been great. This bloody Kirkby debacle started out as 55000, its now been reduced to 50000, if it goes any lower, what is the point of moving from Goodison when it would definately cost less to develope it than building a new ground on a different site / location.
Bloody Kenwright is a liar and Wyness is an obese ugly liar. If they say we cant afford it then *uck them. How can we afford 78, 100 or 130Million especially on a further reduced capacity. They are keeping very quiet about the anticipated gate revenue, but they have to get in more than 10Mill extra or again, what is the point. Moving grounds is massive. Kenwright and Wyness are NOT capable of doing the best for the long term future of Everton FC !

1) Stupid Location? Whats stupid about it?
2) Rubbish Stadium? Open debate, i like the design. Others like the redshites new ground i think it looks heidous.
3) Nightmare travel? What right off the motorway and a major A road. Yeh nightmare that!
4) Answers on a postcard what you know about corporate entertainment please

Loop is too small and we cant afford to redevelop GP. Both are off the agenda. Deal with it.
Why would Walton Hall Pk be great? Because its in the boundary, its a [Poor language removed] location with limited access
 
1) Stupid Location? Whats stupid about it?
2) Rubbish Stadium? Open debate, i like the design. Others like the redshites new ground i think it looks heidous.
3) Nightmare travel? What right off the motorway and a major A road. Yeh nightmare that!
4) Answers on a postcard what you know about corporate entertainment please

Loop is too small and we cant afford to redevelop GP. Both are off the agenda. Deal with it.
Why would Walton Hall Pk be great? Because its in the boundary, its a [Poor language removed] location with limited access

Location.....So everyone will arrive by car then ? and there wont be any traffic problems, hope not....The public transport plan is ridiculous. It will take us back thirty years. Why would anybody want to wait without shelter to queue up to enter a train station or bus station for what could be hours. Being herded around by police on horses etc. Doesnt sound like a great match day experience to me.

I admit, I dont know about Corporate entertainment, but my point about it was really to do with location. I am assuming that a ground nearer the city centre would attract more of this type of client and for whom may be a better location for their guests. I understand these private boxes cost companies tens of thousands of pounds ? A city location might justify this cost better ? Maybe not, obviously you do know about this subject.

The stadium design at best could be called utility. The club have described it as a mid level facility. The club are saying they are looking to the future with this, they are obviously not. This stadium could be EFCs home for the next 100 years. I think we deserve better than this.

So you think nothing could be done with Goodison Park for £130Million ? and youve been privvy to detailed costing plans etc for this and you agree that they are unaffordable.

You didnt make any comment re. increased turnover etc. or maybe that should be, decreasing all the time possible extra turnover, paying for the debt, The size of the stadium is an important point as it has alot to do with the clubs revenue and this is one of Wyness's main points of argument about relocating but the proposed capacity seems to be shrinking all the time.
 
The stadium design at best could be called utility. The club have described it as a mid level facility. The club are saying they are looking to the future with this, they are obviously not. This stadium could be EFCs home for the next 100 years. I think we deserve better than this.

So you think nothing could be done with Goodison Park for £130Million ? and youve been privvy to detailed costing plans etc for this and you agree that they are unaffordable.

I think you're right in that the stadium at Kirkby is, at best, utilitarian - it's fit for purpose. Add to that the fact that it will cost us at least £80m, if not £100m or maybe more, and the idea of redeveloping Goodison appears attractive to me. Really, what could be done to our spiritual home with the amount of money we have to spend anyway? One sticking point is whether we could increase capacity. Bully Wyness says not, KEIOC say yes. I don't trust either of these sources. But I'm getting more and more turned off the Kirkby idea.
 

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