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Stadium Thread - ALL Kirkby/Stadium Discussion Here

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Everton chief admits concern over club move if inquiry is launched

Apr 25 2008 by David Bartlett, Liverpool Daily Post
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Artist's impression of Everton's new stadium & shops in Kirkby _400

EVERTON FC chief executive Keith Wyness last night admitted he was concerned about the long-term ramifications of the club’s proposed move to Kirkby if the Government launched an inquiry.
It came as Wyness welcomed the intervention of Knowsley MP George Howarth, who yesterday finally gave his support to the proposed £400m scheme that would include a Tesco superstore.
In a letter to constituents, Mr Howarth said he would “choose progress” after Tesco made commitments which he believes will “bring real benefits to local people”.
This week, the Liverpool Daily Post reported a government official saying the scheme was likely to be “called in” for an inquiry because of the huge amount of retail it has.
Yesterday, Mr Howarth also said he would not ask the Government to call in the scheme for a public inquiry as it would “leave Kirkby in limbo for at least a year” and “even jeopardise the project”.
Tesco’s pledge to create 700 jobs, spend £10m on roads and parking improvements and a possible new police station and health centre, had convinced him to back the scheme.
Last night, Mr Wyness said: “Hav- ing spent a considerable amount of time discussing the 'Destination Kirkby' project with Mr Howarth and with the people of Kirkby, we are pleased to hear he has now thrown his weight behind the scheme.
“I believe he has been impressed by the wide range of benefits which will be on offer from what we believe will prove to a very fruitful relationship between the people of Kirkby, Everton Football Club and Everton in the Community.
“Like Mr Howarth, we are con-cerned about the long-term ramific-ations of a Government 'call-in'.”
He said the club “remained confi-dent” the scheme would be given the go-ahead, despite opponents
Ian Morris, of Kirkby Residents Action Group, said: “Throughout his career as an MP, he has consistently failed to listen to people in Kirkby, so this letter comes as no surprise.
“The vast majority of residents are against the development while it includes a football stadium. I think this could prompt more people to vote against Labour next week .”
Mr Howarth said: “There are big divisions among residents, but in the last few weeks issues like jobs and housing have tipped the balance in favour of it. I don’t think every-thing is perfect, but there is a stronger commitment from Tesco. A reassurance was its decision to buy the existing town centre. They won’t let £60m investment go to rot.”
Mr Howarth added: “Kirkby now faces a choice. We can leave the town to stagnate with no realistic prospect of any major regeneration for the foreseeable future.
“Alternatively, we can choose progress and a new, modern, successful town. I choose progress.”
Last year, Mr Howarth said he would ask for the scheme to be called in if his concerns about traffic, anti-social behaviour and housing were not addressed.
He now feels Knowsley council should make the final decision whether the stadium and shops should be built.
 
I think there's a distinct liklihood of the conspiracy theorists jumping on this one, suggesting funny handshakes or backhanders for the volte-face.
I don't believe a word of it. This potential investment would be good for Kirkby, and there aren't many MPs who wouldn't want this level of development within their constituency (once they've made all the right noises about ensuring their constituents don't get raped and pillaged in the process).
Destination Kirkby will be good for Kirkby, good for Tesco's, and good for Knowsley as a whole.
Just not the best option for EFC. Looks like the hurdles are being cleared though:mellow:

That was one hurdle they could be guaranteed of clearing. Local Labour MP puts block on plan his constituency Labour Party are championing? Dont think so. Reality bites.

As for this thing getting through without an inquiry - fat chance. It is way too big a development - trampling over all sorts of planning legislation and not to mention the feet of all other local authorities. Neighbouring MPs like Cooper in West Lancs have vowed to have this called in as it will destroy the regeneration prospects of Skelmersdale where St Modwens are planning a £300M commercial development.
 
i doubt if a council in merseyside will give 2 hoots about what goes on in west lancs, in fact i would imagine they will do all possible to attract businesses away from neighbouring skelmerslovakia. it's like sintellins council blocking plans that would affect wigin.
 
That was one hurdle they could be guaranteed of clearing. Local Labour MP puts block on plan his constituency Labour Party are championing? Dont think so. Reality bites.

As for this thing getting through without an inquiry - fat chance. It is way too big a development - trampling over all sorts of planning legislation and not to mention the feet of all other local authorities. Neighbouring MPs like Cooper in West Lancs have vowed to have this called in as it will destroy the regeneration prospects of Skelmersdale where St Modwens are planning a £300M commercial development.

Don't suppose we could convince them to include a Red [Poor language removed] Stadium in that development?

City's all ours, my arse :lol:
 

I did yeah. (y)

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if they manipulated the results.

Credit were its due though, they worded questions in their favour very well.

What, you mean like:

"Do you want to come to a World Class Stadium that we're getting for nothing in Kirkby, or stay here while Goodison collapses round your ears and the Club dies?"

sort of like that one?:P:D
 
I did yeah. (y)

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if they manipulated the results.


Pretty poor comment that.

In any case, d'you really think they'd have to 'manipulate' a survey at this moment in time given the contradictions in the board's original statements on what we were getting (and at what cost) compared to what we now know?
 

The exact words were:

"We can certainly hope to see up to £10m and that money would go towards the bottom line."

when talking to mbe on bk re projected turnover at the new stadium, wyness said : "We have to look at it separately from TV revenue, which is growing exponentially at the moment. We calculate we will get an extra ten million revenue from stadium activities, increase in attendances, where we think ticket prices will be, extra corporate facilities, extra sponsorship. We think that figure is pretty conservative."

& yes, after deducting additional costs that turnover will go towards the bottom line (either as additional profit or additional loss), let's hope it's profit as moyes might get a few bob extra for his transfer kitty then.
 
is that net or gross revenue? it's all very well pulling in an extra 10M, but if it costs you £8m to earn it, and another £2M to service the debt you took on to get it, all it's doing is boosting your turnover, but making you no better off..

.. sorry to but in, the thought just occurred.
 
is that net or gross revenue? it's all very well pulling in an extra 10M, but if it costs you £8m to earn it, and another £2M to service the debt you took on to get it, all it's doing is boosting your turnover, but making you no better off..

.. sorry to but in, the thought just occurred.

exactly. many seem to think revenue = profit = transfer funds. this proposal seems to be a huge gamble for very little anticipated return (if successful).
 
now that our contribution has already risen i think a few are starting to look at things a bit differently,
i wasn't on here when the ballot took place and cant really be arsed looking through all the threads from back then to gauge opinion, it seems that it's the 1 thing that has evertonians divided, i don't reckon it'll go ahead meaning time wasted,
i don't reckon camp rs will either,
which will then see the ground sharing brought up again and more division, maybe it's the divide and conquer track that the clubs going down, afterall empires were built in exactly that way.
 

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