Star Wars - Episode VII

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I'll avoid spoilers (cause I can't put the spoiler tab on using my phone)....I enjoyed it, but wasn't blown away (after waiting 30 years it was impossible)....will go watch it again over the Christmas (with expectations at a more reasonable level) and I'll probably enjoy it more....
I defo enjoyed it more the 2nd time I saw it. Too much Hope and expectation the first time round.

I thought that was very odd too. Or more accurately, lazy on Abrams and Disney's part. Especially when there were moments where the aircraft they were deploying didn't make sense. You'd want Y-Wings to bomb the planetside oscillator, and TIE bombers to respond when you "call in an air strike." Both of those vehicles were in the original trilogy and covered in great detail in what I'd consider to be the "shallow" expanded universe, stuff made by Lucasfilms or LucasArts.
I think it's more a case of a) everyone wanted to see the return of X-Wings and Tie-Figthers. Does anyone really care if they get those and not Y-Wings/Tie-Bombers, b) it might make the film 'technically' better, but would actual have very little effect overall.

There was one part of the film that did feel massively like it was straight from a Red Dwarf episode! Ha ha
Glad someone else felt that.
When they were on the freighter getting chased by those tentacle things, that was very Dwarvian!

What someone else said rings true with my own thoughts:
I think this article is spot on. It doesn't dislike the film and neither did I. It's refreshing to see so many 'in camera' effects and that weighty feel of real film stock. I grew up with that. But as the author says, its basically a remake of A New Hope and after waiting 30 years i was looking forward to something a lot more original than watching roughly the same people destroy the Death Star for a 3rd time. It left me feeling a bit cheated. I thought it was lazy story writing. It's Episode 7 not Episode 4 version 2. I just wasn't expecting a remake. Think of all the other possibilities they could have explored with this depth of back story. The Universe was their Oyster!. No wonder they kept the plot firmly under wraps. It's amazing how the hype and euphoria has distracted everyone from what i think is the most important part of the film making process and the thing i was looking forward to the most.... An original story!.

I wonder how they're going to destroy the Starkiller Base in the next film? On the edge of my seat here.

Fixed it for you.

im not convinced on the lazy aspect, i believe they honestly think this is the best route/story to go down...disney are chucking money at this, i doubt they employed the spotty intern from hollyoaks

I find the laziest thing is their criticisms :eek: End of the day it was written not only for fans of the Originals, but by fans of the Originals, who were probably as butt hurt by the prequels as many of us were, so it's no surprise they put in loads of things that were similar to them, as they are the things that they and us loved the first time around, and missed from Lucas' later films. I'm sure that this was just, as someone said, a getting back to what we love, rekindling the passion and drawing in new fans film, and the next two films will be where the story goes off on its own Path. *prepares for vaulting in 18 months...*
 

I think it's more a case of a) everyone wanted to see the return of X-Wings and Tie-Figthers. Does anyone really care if they get those and not Y-Wings/Tie-Bombers, b) it might make the film 'technically' better, but would actual have very little effect overall.

Yeah. A lot of us, actually. I'd put the number in the millions that were invested in the Star Wars worldbuilding. Read the books, played the games, etc.

In a movie that's on track to be the highest grossing of all time, it'd be a drop in the bucket to throw some bones to us and it's not like it would dilute the story (which was riddled with plotholes and rehashes anyway). Return of the Jedi had 4 different Rebel fighter models and 3 different TIE fighter models. Y-Wings in particular were actually present in all 3 original trilogy movies.

But, I guess under Disney worldbuilding is no longer a core tenant of Star Wars. Even though it's what made the franchise one of the longest lasting and durable pieces of intellectual property on the planet.

Oh well.
 

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