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[mkrudden]

That was covered by the second part of my post. You don't make 8 changes to a side as it disrupts any momentum a winning side has.

If players need minutes, pick the three most important ones and bring them in. Then, when your almost full strength side has the game under control, bring another three on as subs.

Team selection and substitutions cost us yesterday, as much as poor performances.

Apologies, perhaps ive not presented my point properly.

With the side of the squad as it is, we need everyone to be match-fit and motivated as much as possible. The players train the same as the first 11, the same style, formations etc.

I cant think of another opportunity upcoming where we have the opportunity to maximise a large number of players' fitness.

The alternative is, as you say, just bring in 2 or 3 players, which gives us a better chance of winning THIS game. However, the side of the coin is that you have 5 or 6 players who continue to be unfit, unmotivated and sitting on the bench or worse, not in the squad whatsoever. This could impact the squad as a whole if disharmony spreads.

This was a perfect opportunity to give people a chance to impress, gain fitness and show themselves worthy. From the game last night, I cant think of one player I wouldnt want competing for a first team place.

The players messed up last night for me, not the manager who rightfully gave INTERNATIONAL players the chance to impress.

 

[bluejock]

Apologies, perhaps ive not presented my point properly.

With the side of the squad as it is, we need everyone to be match-fit and motivated as much as possible. The players train the same as the first 11, the same style, formations etc.

I cant think of another opportunity upcoming where we have the opportunity to maximise a large number of players' fitness.

The alternative is, as you say, just bring in 2 or 3 players, which gives us a better chance of winning THIS game. However, the side of the coin is that you have 5 or 6 players who continue to be unfit, unmotivated and sitting on the bench or worse, not in the squad whatsoever. This could impact the squad as a whole if disharmony spreads.

This was a perfect opportunity to give people a chance to impress, gain fitness and show themselves worthy. From the game last night, I cant think of one player I wouldnt want competing for a first team place.

The players messed up last night for me, not the manager who rightfully gave INTERNATIONAL players the chance to impress.

Against a lower league side or possibly even a lower Premier League side at home, I might agree with you. Not away to a decent aide like Fulham though.

That to me is Martinez saying that this competition is unimportant and it doesn't matter if we lose.

 

[Allezfan]

The fume would have been off the scale had Moyes done the same......

just saying.....

I think you have to be more leniant with Martinez than Moyes, though. Because Martinez is still new to the job and learning.

 

[Allezfan]

I could understand at 1-1 when he originally planned to make the change. I'd still have brought Barry on after they scored as we were being overrun in midfield. Soon as they scored though, Jagielka should have been sat back down.

Yeah, I might have fancied bringing on Mirallas or Barkley then, instead.

 

[Goat]

I think you have to be more leniant with Martinez than Moyes, though. Because Martinez is still new to the job and learning.

Huh?

Is he?

Pretty sure hes been a Manager for well over 5 years.

 

[mkrudden]

Against a lower league side or possibly even a lower Premier League side at home, I might agree with you. Not away to a decent aide like Fulham though.

That to me is Martinez saying that this competition is unimportant and it doesn't matter if we lose.

But who knows if this chance will present itself again this season? What if we are unlucky g!ts and draw a premier league team in the FA Cup. The longer we went on without giving the squad players a chance the wore the repercussions would be.

And i dont think RM thinks like that. I think he probably thought the players would take their chance better than they did.

And remember, first half we were boss. Had Deulololololfeu got his head up we got have been 4-0 up and therefore we wouldnt be having this debate

 

[Allezfan]

Huh?

Is he?

Pretty sure hes been a Manager for well over 5 years.

He doesn't know everton, this isn't his squad, he hasn't bought them all in and worked with them for years.

You can, therefore, excuse him misjudging their capabilties the way he did last night. You've got to give him time, to get to know the place and get the players doing what he wants them to do.

In his first year, I'll give him leeway that I wouldn't Moyes in his 11th.

 

[Goat]

He doesn't know everton, this isn't his squad, he hasn't bought them all in and worked with them for years.

You can, therefore, excuse him misjudging their capabilties the way he did last night. You've got to give him time, to get to know the place and get the players doing what he wants them to do.

In his first year, I'll give him leeway that I wouldn't Moyes in his 11th.

Thats bullcrap, I know the players from the first time they step on the pitch, I only have to see a player once to know what they are capable of.

 

[bluemangroup]

Thats bullcrap, I know the players from the first time they step on the pitch, I only have to see a player once to know what they are capable of.

Who came out of last night well and who was pyar tosh?

 

[Housequake]

The fume would have been off the scale had Moyes done the same......

just saying.....

It'll be the same if Roberto isn't learning from his mistakes 11 years into his reign, too.

 

[Omarza]

He doesn't know everton, this isn't his squad, he hasn't bought them all in and worked with them for years.

You can, therefore, excuse him misjudging their capabilties the way he did last night. You've got to give him time, to get to know the place and get the players doing what he wants them to do.

In his first year, I'll give him leeway that I wouldn't Moyes in his 11th.

Agree with this...

 

[Goat]

Who came out of last night well and who was pyar tosh?

Well for the record, I dont blame Bobby in any shape or form, I feel the team he put out was a good team, not our best, but it was certainly good enough to get the job done.

I thought Lukaku was terrible, couldnt control a ball or pass, Naismith also, he lost the ability to even play football at 1 point, McCarthy, jesus christ, just what does this fella do well? The barca lid, PASS THE BALL YOU FLICKING CLOWN, lift your head up, he should train with Baines for the next 6months and learn how to cross a ball, Heitinga needs to throw himself off the nearest bridge, I thought everybody else was average.

 

[bluemangroup]

Well for the record, I dont blame Bobby in any shape or form, I feel the team he put out was a good team, not our best, but it was certainly good enough to get the job done.

I thought Lukaku was terrible, couldnt control a ball or pass, Naismith also, he lost the ability to even play football at 1 point, McCarthy, jesus christ, just what does this fella do well? The barca lid, PASS THE BALL YOU FLICKING CLOWN, lift your head up, he should train with Baines for the next 6months and learn how to cross a ball, Heitinga needs to throw himself off the nearest bridge, I thought everybody else was average.

It's a shame you feel the need to reign in your opinions these days.

 

[mkrudden]

Well for the record, I dont blame Bobby in any shape or form, I feel the team he put out was a good team, not our best, but it was certainly good enough to get the job done.

I thought Lukaku was terrible, couldnt control a ball or pass, Naismith also, he lost the ability to even play football at 1 point, McCarthy, jesus christ, just what does this fella do well? The barca lid, PASS THE BALL YOU FLICKING CLOWN, lift your head up, he should train with Baines for the next 6months and learn how to cross a ball, Heitinga needs to throw himself off the nearest bridge, I thought everybody else was average.

Nasty critique this lad.

 

[Goat]

Nasty critique this lad.

Catchphrase mate, say what you see.