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Steve Walsh - no longer our Director of Football
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brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
Concerning the comparisions with Tottenham, isn't Levy both Chairman and CEO there?
If they don't have an official DOF/Sporting Director at present, then that's Levy performing three roles albeit I'm sure he must divest purely footballing judgements to someone else. It seems to me he is the football business guru taking advice from Pochettino and the other football (on-pitch) experts at the club.
I have come to agree with those who think we have too much duplication and hired a DOF purely because our peers have one also. The structure at Everton is much too muddled for a DOF to succeed, but that's no defence of Walsh - he took the job.
We can't have Kenwright/Elstone/Walsh and the manager all with their hands in the till on this.
The ideal appointment would be a CEO with both football business and coaching/playing experience also but those are very thin on the ground.
Seems the next best thing is to appoint an industry-leading CEO to manage and lead on both commercial and football business. I don't see why the same person cannot also be Chairman as the senior director.
Under that model, make the DOF role redundant and reintegrate the Chief Scout to report directly to the manager, who can make recommendations to the CEO.
If they don't have an official DOF/Sporting Director at present, then that's Levy performing three roles albeit I'm sure he must divest purely footballing judgements to someone else. It seems to me he is the football business guru taking advice from Pochettino and the other football (on-pitch) experts at the club.
I have come to agree with those who think we have too much duplication and hired a DOF purely because our peers have one also. The structure at Everton is much too muddled for a DOF to succeed, but that's no defence of Walsh - he took the job.
We can't have Kenwright/Elstone/Walsh and the manager all with their hands in the till on this.
The ideal appointment would be a CEO with both football business and coaching/playing experience also but those are very thin on the ground.
Seems the next best thing is to appoint an industry-leading CEO to manage and lead on both commercial and football business. I don't see why the same person cannot also be Chairman as the senior director.
Under that model, make the DOF role redundant and reintegrate the Chief Scout to report directly to the manager, who can make recommendations to the CEO.
Eggsyblueskin
Player Valuation: £40m
With this model who is responsible for overseeing the recruiting and coaching practices at the other age levels up to and including the u23s.? I doubt the first team coach has enough spare time to pop along to watch the u10s on a regular basis.
Having a decent DoF with extensive football expertise
allows the club to have a holistic approach to recruitment and coaching throughout the club leaving us less exposed to the vicissitudes of abrupt managerial changes of direction.
That’s the theory anyway.
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
I think it can be delegated to whoever is most appropriate to do it within what is a small army of managers and coaches at the club. In addition there is an academy director and all of that staff.
I am beginning to become somewhat sceptical of the notion that there must be some footballing "philosophy" that has to be decided on a top-down basis and then filtered through to every level of the club. We are all purists at this level. We all want another La Masia. The only philosophy I want is winning games, and lots of them.
Continuity throughout the club is something everything would agree on in principle, but for me the simple structure is first team, and everything else. As long as our system strives to find the best local, national, and international young talent of which a small proportion can be identified as good enough for the first team, then I'm happy.
If a player is good enough, either coming through the youth/U-23 set-up or transferred externally, they should be adaptable within whatever tactical and team changes a manager incorporates, or differences between managers.
Our issue seems to be just a dearth of quality, and a collection of professionals, some of whom look barely acquainted with football of any description.
Eggsyblueskin
Player Valuation: £40m
I disagree , I think our current woes began with the appointment of a manager whose approach was virtually the opposite of his predecessor ,who had hitherto given us a measure of stability. As a consequence players who been recruited because of their ability to perform their roles a certain way struggled with altered emphasis the new coach required, this was compounded by poor signings. Eventually this led to the disaffection of first the fans then the players and ultimately the peremptory failure of the whole management structure. We have been on the slide since.
An overarching sense of direction and style under a competent DoF should deliver the club the consistency necessary as a basis to pursue success.
Leave the first team coach to attend to his primary task, coaching the first team.
I'm inclined to agree, at least to an extent.
I think it's easy to fall into the trap of saying 'these clubs have a DoF so we need one' but there are a couple of issues with it. Firstly, is it working for these clubs? I mean really working? Chelsea for example are successful (to a point) but they seem to have a recurring issue, which to me at least seems connected to the lack of autonomy for the manager. Every few years they have some success, then the manager spits his dummy out because he hasn't got the players he wants, they nosedive and the manager leaves, and the whole process starts again.
Secondly, does having a defined playing style throughout the club really work? We're not Barcelona, we can't attract the best young technical players from South America to come over to Finch Farm, so what sort of style would we be implementing? Do we want all our teams to play in the 'traditional' Everton style of a bit of football on the deck, a couple of wingers and a big number 9? Are we going for a more continental, possession based approach? Do we model the youth set up on what our current manager is known for, and just get all the teams launching it forward? What if 5/10 years down the line, the approach isn't working, and the fans aren't happy with the style of play etc? Do we rip it all up and start again?
I'm not averse to the idea of a DoF, but I think it needs to be a well thought through plan. The fit needs to be right, we need a 'coach' rather than a manager, and we need to know exactly what our aims are as a club. Just bringing someone in to do a job because we think it's what other teams are doing is really not the way to go.
Bet he's just been sitting in his office picking his nose and flicking bogeys into a cup on the floor whilst watching Loose Women on his iPhone
billyblue80
Player Valuation: £70m
Walsh's signings failures and binned off on loan
MichiganToffee-NSNO
Player Valuation: £8m
When does Marcel Brands come in with a steel chair and clock Walsh to then take over the DoF job and right this team?
Steve Walsh, the charlatans of all charlatans
Sitting on his fat arse making lists
Sitting on his fat arse making lists
His list only consists of what Samuel and his backroom boys have ordered from KFC for lunch. No way does he have a list of footballers as that would be far too much work for him so close after Crimbo. He hasn' even bedded in his new crimbo slippers yet
GwladysBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
Klaassen going on loan to Napoli, 4 months after a £25m move.
Get this absolute knobhead out of the club.
Get this absolute knobhead out of the club.
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