steven naismith

[Christiffa25]

At worst, he fills out the numbers. I don't see the harm here.

This all day long. The way I see it if he just takes the place of mcffadden and straq's squad duties then it's a upgrade. But maybe he may just turn out to be another moyes bargain and at 25yrs old he has both time on his side and a resale value which even if he turns out poor for us we would still make a profit.

 

[gordonjblair]

Davek, is there something we don't know here, has he shagged your Mum or something?

From his perspective, he's decided not to TUPE his terms across from:

the bunch of shysters who cut his wage down to a quarter of what he signed for

to:

an entirely new club, playing in a league below, with an owner who is already taking flak...

He's done nothing wrong, and could have quite easily pushed for breach of contract last season, I don't have a problem with him looking after his career - he's no more mercenary than the majority of players we have at the club if we're going to be brutally honest.

From an Everton perspective, he's ideal... a replacement for Cahill that will make Jelavic feel loved and provide a [slight] upgrade in quality for minimal outlay. Yes, there's a risk, but I seem to recall most clubs not touching Lescott with a barge pole over his 'shot' knees... balanced against the outlay, it seems like a risk worth taking, particularly for a club in our financial position.

I jjust hope we can get Whittaker too.

 

[Baines' left foot]

He has to be better than Anichebe, and probably Vellios. He's also free. He also knows Jelavic very well. For those 3 reasons alone we should sign him.

 

[davek]

He's coming to Everton because Weir has sold him to Moyes and he's costing a fee and wages. Anyone thinking in normal circumstances we'd be toughing this feller with a ****ty stick are off their heads. The worst thing about all thi is that it must mean her's been prioritised and that money is being ploughed into this deal. We have Pienaar still tie up and Donovan if we can. I'm assuming now that throwing money at this deal is a tracit admission that all that's now off the agenda.

We're in a terrible period of the club's history. A make do and mend pragmatic philosophy surviiving rather than building. These are the type of signings (and under disgraceful circumstances) that result from that utter failure to move forward.

"He'll do a job" That should be the club's new motto, because the use of the old one is completely fraudulant these days.

 

[gordonjblair]

want a hug?

 

[gordonjblair]

I guess we'll just have to disagree, I think it's great business on our part

 

[sw blue]

Someone's updated his wiki page. Seems to be playing for everton already...

I reserve judgement until I've seen him play.

 

[Deloodid]

ill be made up if he signs tomorrow, i dont give a **** how we get him. hes a good back up for cahill or vice versa.

 

[davek]

Davek, is there something we don't know here, has he shagged your Mum or something?

From his perspective, he's decided not to TUPE his terms across from:

the bunch of shysters who cut his wage down to a quarter of what he signed for

to:

an entirely new club, playing in a league below, with an owner who is already taking flak...

He's done nothing wrong, and could have quite easily pushed for breach of contract last season, I don't have a problem with him looking after his career - he's no more mercenary than the majority of players we have at the club if we're going to be brutally honest.

From an Everton perspective, he's ideal... a replacement for Cahill that will make Jelavic feel loved and provide a [slight] upgrade in quality for minimal outlay. Yes, there's a risk, but I seem to recall most clubs not touching Lescott with a barge pole over his 'shot' knees... balanced against the outlay, it seems like a risk worth taking, particularly for a club in our financial position.

I jjust hope we can get Whittaker too.

Says it all about the morality (or lack of) in the game that post of yours. Your sympathy for a pampered player who's earned millions is misplaced. He's ****ed off and deprived the club he supported/supports of a fee.

Nick Barmby had more going for him than those players deciding to jump ship. At least we got some money for him.

Football isn't just a business. And these players are using a contested area in terms of the legitimacy of the transference of their registrations to waltz off to a big pay day. But that's ok...get his mates in too.

 

[gordonjblair]

Says it all about the morality (or lack of) in the game that post of yours. Your sympathy for a pampered player who's earned millions is misplaced. He's ****ed off and deprived the club he supported/supports of a fee.

Nick Barmby had more going for him than those players deciding to jump ship. At least we got some money for him.

Football isn't just a business. And these players are using a contested area in terms of the legitimacy of the transference of their registrations to waltz off to a big pay day. But that's ok...get his mates in too.

It's not contested at all mate... the NewCo has bugger all to do with the organisation he signed with, it's employment law, he is well within his rights to decide not to transfer to the 'new Rangers'

As for the pampered generation, they're not a charity, he has a choice between playing in the Prem for more cash, or playing in SD1 for less, it's his career and it's the right choice for his career

 

[micknick]

It's not contested at all mate... the NewCo has bugger all to do with the organisation he signed with, it's employment law, he is well within his rights to decide not to transfer to the 'new Rangers'

As for the pampered generation, they're not a charity, he has a choice between playing in the Prem for more cash, or playing in SD1 for less, it's his career and it's the right choice for his career

And at 25 years old too- hes well within his rights to try and play at the top level and test himself. If he makes an extra quid or two fair play.

I dont understand how anyone can blame him for leaving. The newco could still go bust too.

I worked somewhere that entered into a CVA- didnt have a clue what it was before they entered it. They still went bust 6 months later...

 

[gordonjblair]

quite frankly, if my client was going bust and I got a better offer from a more prestigious client for more cash and a better work environment I'd do exactly the same.

and yes, bring his mates, the more the merrier, in our position we'd be cutting off our noses if we didn't

 

[davek]

It's not contested at all mate... the NewCo has bugger all to do with the organisation he signed with, it's employment law, he is well within his rights to decide not to transfer to the 'new Rangers'

As for the pampered generation, they're not a charity, he has a choice between playing in the Prem for more cash, or playing in SD1 for less, it's his career and it's the right choice for his career

If it's not contested, why is it being contested? Green's advised by his lawyers that an objection to a transference to newco had to be lodged by a certain period that well eleapsed. No disrespect like, but if someone in and around football clubs are being advised that I'll take that as a matter of contestation even if someone called gordonjohnblair says otherwise.

The other point: I said club's are not just businesses, not that they're populated charity donors. Where in the fcuk are we if this mentality prevails in football? Chaos. He's not on the breadline, he's rich already beyond our wildest dreams. You're providing way too low a bar for footballers to negotiate.

 

[sheeds]

If you were a Rangers fan you'd be furious feelin deserted, betrayed and abandoned . if you were Naismith or his people you'd look at the fact that nobody knows WTF is going on at Rangers, half the fans don't know what's going on with the new owners nor what the future holds. rumours abound that the Newco itself could go under not to mention nobody knows where the club will (if even at all) be playing whilst former legends recommend a season ticket boycott, whose manager nearly quit last week and himself wasn't at training when the players returned and think I took a 75% pay cut I've done my bit why wouldn't I go ? ultimately to fans it's what people post on boards about or talk about in the boozer but how many of us do that about our jobs because that's what it is to the players a job ridiculously well paid or not

We've signed players who've told their selling club they were only coming to us thereby driving the price down or even threatened to strike to force a move through , players who've agreed to join other clubs but reneged to sign here, boyhood fans who've run for the door and on and on football is far from an honest decent business but I seriously doubt it ever was.

 

[Deloodid]

So we should not sign him or Whittaker, lets other Premiership clubs get them, if they do well, you (Davec) will come on and blame Moyes and Kenwright for not getting them.