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Not passing any comment as Davek as a contributor to the forum,but on this thread I would disagree with him.
Naismith and the other players have left Rangers not because of anything they have done wrong,it was their employer(RangersFC) who are responsible for the mess that occured.
What happened at Rangers put the livelihood of so many people at risk,clerical,cleaning,administration ,coaching etc.Mostly the players are the lucky ones in that most of them are employable and generally are flexible about where they work.

It seems to me that Charles Green has taken over Rangers with a view to putting the asset back in place as it was before and then selling on for a profit.I believe he is more upset that Naismith and others have left because it will affect his level of future profit rather than the footballing loss to the club.
 
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I am not trying to present them in a good light, my argument is more nuanced than that. I am merely arguing that you cannot judge them in a bad light yourself when you do not know all of the factors that have gone into a difficult decision. Please enlighten me if you posses a detailed file containing the facts of the Rangers situation including the extensive reasons the players have given for not transferring their contracts.

I understand that some fans will feel betrayed (many don't feel betrayed now that they have let their initial feelings cool off - many aim their hatred towards the former owners for creating the situation), players are well paid and that he wouldn't care if I was laid off work. I don't care if he is laid off work. I am simply asking you not to judge a player as a rat when there is not enough evidence to show the motivation.

Fans/consumers are always going to be the ones to lose out in a situation like this. However, football is just a game and doesn't have a huge impact on the things that are important in their life and they will be able to cope. It has happened before to other clubs and it will happen again. They do not have to work in such conditions and so cannot force the hand of a player though.

Barmby is not analogous. He was simply out for the money and forced the move. You cannot claim the same for all of the players who have left Rangers. For some it may be about the money, but for others it may not. Please do not generalise the situation and clump them all together when nobody has access to all the facts.

Moreover, most decisions are made on the balance of probabilities which are the ifs and ands as you like to call them. There were time frames in which they had to make their decision which did not allow for them to wait for the situation to pan out and so they had to make a decision based on what they could discern from what was presented.

Players are not saints, I will never argue this. I am just asking you not to judge Naismith when you are not privy to the facts.
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That's preposterous...and you must have cringed when you typed that out. Naismith and the others didn't take a route out of his old contract to make a financial killing? Are you being serious? The undisputed fact of the matter is that he's a player who was with one club in one legal form and then he had the chance to do what the bulk of his squad mates did and accept playing for that club in another legal form...the club he's a boyhood supporter of, btw. If he'd stayed he'd have been on his wages that he was getting from the oldco. He wasn't staring at the back of the queue down the job centre applying for housing benefit. And it's likely that he'd have been at a club that faced a challenge to get back to the SPL from Scot Div One.

He chose not to take that route to stick it out. End of story. Dress it up all you want concerning all 'the different factors'.

I really is an eye opner a thread like this. The leeway these footy players get from ordinary people is astounding.
 
davek said:
That's preposterous...and you must have cringed when you typed that out. Naismith and the others didn't take a route out of his old contract to make a financial killing? Are you being serious? The undisputed fact of the matter is that he's a player who was with one club in one legal form and then he had the chance to do what the bulk of his squad mates did and accept playing for that club in another legal form...the club he's a boyhood supporter of, btw. If he'd stayed he'd have been on his wages that he was getting from the oldco. He wasn't staring at the back of the queue down the job centre applying for housing benefit. And it's likely that he'd have been at a club that faced a challenge to get back to the SPL from Scot Div One.

He chose not to take that route to stick it out. End of story. Dress it up all you want concerning all 'the different factors'.

I really is an eye opner a thread like this. The leeway these footy players get from ordinary people is astounding.
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Why are you calling peoples posts cringeworthy?! Those in glass houses dave.

Just support our new number 14 FFS. His decision was a career move- he could go to the 3rd Division and into oblivion but no he got a move to the greatest club on Earth. Fair play to him I say.
 

Davek is fantastic, especially if you view him as a popcorn merchant.

I think Naismisth will be decent when linked up with Jelavic.
 
davek said:
That's preposterous...and you must have cringed when you typed that out. Naismith and the others didn't take a route out of his old contract to make a financial killing? Are you being serious? The undisputed fact of the matter is that he's a player who was with one club in one legal form and then he had the chance to do what the bulk of his squad mates did and accept playing for that club in another legal form...the club he's a boyhood supporter of, btw. If he'd stayed he'd have been on his wages that he was getting from the oldco. He wasn't staring at the back of the queue down the job centre applying for housing benefit. And it's likely that he'd have been at a club that faced a challenge to get back to the SPL from Scot Div One.

He chose not to take that route to stick it out. End of story. Dress it up all you want concerning all 'the different factors'.

I really is an eye opner a thread like this. The leeway these footy players get from ordinary people is astounding.
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so just for clarity, you're a fan of our new number 14?
 

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