Summer 2018 Transfer Window

[Lord Buckethead]

he's tried hard

I could try hard and fail just as well (if not better than Sandro) but I'm not wanted by the Club or it's fans.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

At a pretty substantial loss, eh. Just cannot see anyone looking at our players and thinking 'ooh, I'll take him'. They wouldn't get into a pub team on last seasons performances.

Hard to know how much of a loss it is, without knowing how the deals are structured. Almost certainly *some* loss involved yeah, but how much could vary massively.

 

[Saint Domingo]

For me Besic is a disaster waiting to happen in every game. Cut our losses and move on, take any offer from Middlesbrough for him, he is not of the required standard. Neither are many more, sadly.

We’ve got far bigger problems than Besic.

 

[CielosGrises]

At a pretty substantial loss, eh. Just cannot see anyone looking at our players and thinking 'ooh, I'll take him'. They wouldn't get into a pub team on last seasons performances.

I actually thought Klaasen would be the hardest to shift - I'm confident that Bolasie has value to someone and Schneiderlin if we want to let him go.

Sandro might be the hardest, i'd be tempted to keep him for a season.

McCarthy, Besic .. they don't contribute much.

With a lot of these it comes down to replacements though, and so it should.

 

[Chimpy Glassman]

Southampton have had to loan Jordie Classie out for 2 years straight because they cannot get a taker,
Same with spurs and Vincent Janssen

There is a huge list of players who have come to the league for big fee's on huge wages that are not good enough and teams cannot shift. Teams are waiting until after our window closes to get these players in as they reckon they can get them on a low price loan deal.
If we get anything over 10m for Klaassen plus his 6m wages off the books then we have done a great job

Problem for me is the volume of mistakes we've made. It's not one or two, it's the bulk of the signing. Thank goodness Rooney is gone, but to be honest, he wasn't a tough sell from a marketing perspective.

 

[CielosGrises]

The issue with our CBs is that Holgate aside none of them have the poise on the ball to find the midfielders with quick passes, so every single time they just end up taking the easy ball out to the full back or long. They’re just not good enough end of.

Our central defence / midfield just seemed to go missing at times against Blackburn - properly rubbish it was - and reminded me that I still don't trust Schneiderlin to shield the back 4.

 

[ijjysmith]

At a pretty substantial loss, eh. Just cannot see anyone looking at our players and thinking 'ooh, I'll take him'. They wouldn't get into a pub team on last seasons performances.

I think we have to just accept these massive losses. Sadly.

But that’s literally the price you pay for spending so madly in the first place.

 

[Chimpy Glassman]

Hard to know how much of a loss it is, without knowing how the deals are structured. Almost certainly *some* loss involved yeah, but how much could vary massively.

I remember it being reported as purchase at 27m, sale at roughly 12-15m. Pretty much half price.

 

[CielosGrises]

The issue with our CBs is that Holgate aside none of them have the poise on the ball to find the midfielders with quick passes, so every single time they just end up taking the easy ball out to the full back or long. They’re just not good enough end of.

Has Holgate actually played in the last couple of games - maybe I just missed him.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

I remember it being reported as purchase at 27m, sale at roughly 12-15m. Pretty much half price.

Like Richarlison being reported at £50m?

I'd be astonished if a lot of our deals last summer didn't have a fair few clauses included etc...

 

[Chimpy Glassman]

I actually thought Klaasen would be the hardest to shift - I'm confident that Bolasie has value to someone and Schneiderlin if we want to let him go.

Sandro might be the hardest, i'd be tempted to keep him for a season.

McCarthy, Besic .. they don't contribute much.

With a lot of these it comes down to replacements though, and so it should.

Sandro will go pretty easily I think. Back to Spain for roughly what we paid for him but he'll have to take a pay cut. He was cheap as they come so I'm not too bothered about him.

Essentially we need an entirely new defence and the bulk of a midfield.

 

[willo30]

Southampton have had to loan Jordie Classie out for 2 years straight because they cannot get a taker,
Same with spurs and Vincent Janssen

There is a huge list of players who have come to the league for big fee's on huge wages that are not good enough and teams cannot shift. Teams are waiting until after our window closes to get these players in as they reckon they can get them on a low price loan deal.
If we get anything over 10m for Klaassen plus his 6m wages off the books then we have done a great job

We really won't have. Loaning him out for 2 seasons then selling for 10m would be the better way to do it. Can we really afford to just wipe 10m off our books.
It's why others are doing 2 year loans as well.

 

[andy4efc]

Really? Cos he seems utterly unable to finish, but his delivery has been mostly excellent over the last few games.

He isn't a winger mate, can cross a ball sure thing because he's technically a decent footballer, but he's not made for England at all. I'm not saying he would bag for fun in striker, just think he would score more in the central role that he's more used to.

As I say tho, effort has been there so personally wont be booing/swearing me tits off like some at last nights match.

 

[TheBigIguana]

United circling over Yerry Mina, think we might need a couple of alternatives.

Don't think so. I think what's going on is Mina isn't sold on use just a year after moving to Barca and his people are trying desperately to draw interest from someone else. I just don't think it's there.

 

[Chimpy Glassman]

Like Richarlison being reported at £50m?

I'd be astonished if a lot of our deals last summer didn't have a fair few clauses included etc...

23.6m plus clauses for accuracy.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...m-in-a-day-on-pickford-and-klaassen-ww3qkn33s