Summer transfer speculative hopes and dreams

[marty mcfly]

If you wish, we can continue to discuss the merits of shakira playing at number 10 all day and all night, neither of us will see the others POV, for me, hes a winger, who can play as an ACM, not a playmaker, when discussing the player he wanted, Martinez said a "David Silva" type, thats somebody who sits and pulls strings with their ability to create.

Shakira for me is a "Ronaldo", a player that attacks with pace.

Theres lots of different types of "number 10s", for me, Shakira is the wrong type.

Takes two to tango. You don't need to keep it going. In this thread I actually stopped that very discussion because it was clear the other person and I both understood each other's arguments and still disagreed.

But when you misrepresent what I'm saying to suit your argument I'm going to respond myself. My argument for Shaqiri wasn't so he could be used as another Pienaar but rather he's a replacement for Ross so Ross can move back. It's a separate issue only made confusing by the need for everyone to call a winger a No 10.

Just respect my opinion and don't argue against me for the sake of arguing. If you are going to argue just argue at least against what I've said. Otherwise it keeps going round in circles.

 

[Pippi Longstocking]

He did mention the loss of Osman and Pienaar as being vital.

But then would you say David Silva, positionally wise, is Osman or Pienaar?

not sure the comparison can be direct. Didn't look like Osman could do what Pienaar did on the left but he made a difference between the middle and the Strikers that Pienaar didn't either. These 'playmakers' are almost by definition individualists.

 

[marty mcfly]

From what I've seen - I think he's better as a playmaker.
I watched the Switzerland v England game last September - and he looked really good - definitely a class above everyone else on the pitch - except for maybe Rooney.

Exactly that's the player he's like. He's like Rooney. He can play on the wing but it's not his best position.

 

[Raino85]

That still doesn't answer the question. Why print the story.

Stoke have had a 17m offer accepted. Everton have also bid 16m.

Your argument was to force Stoke to up their offer which makes no sense.

Face it you are clutching at straws or any load of waffle just because you don't want to accept or admit we bid less than Stoke. When the reality is we bid less than Stoke because we knew the player would choose us. I don't have an issue with it.

What im saying is that inter or shaqiri's agent new stoke were interested. They go to the press and say we are going to make a bid. Stoke panic incase they lose out and throw a bid in the very next day. It happens all the time

 

[ijjysmith]

We haven't actually bid for anyone have we?

 

[marty mcfly]

What im saying is that inter or shaqiri's agent new stoke were interested. They go to the press and say we are going to make a bid. Stoke panic incase they lose out and throw a bid in the very next day. It happens all the time

But the news of our bid came out after the news of Stoke's bid being accepted. Your logic is fine but your timeline is off.

 

[marty mcfly]

We haven't actually bid for anyone have we?

Sky Italia have said we've bid for Shaqiri.

 

[ijjysmith]

Sky Italia have said we've bid for Shaqiri.

Yeah. But we probably haven't though. I mean really.

 

[Raino85]

But the news of our bid came out after the news of Stoke's bid being accepted. Your logic is fine but your timeline is off.

Not talking bout the bid. Thats just garbage anyway.
Talking about the article the day before saying we were sounding off his former clubs to see what his atitude is like

 

[ah11984]

We haven't actually bid for anyone have we?

It's July 2nd. We have got some serious pondering, mulling, considering and weighing up to do before we make an actual bid.

 

[marty mcfly]

Yeah. But we probably haven't though. I mean really.

I think we probably have. What do Sky Italia get out of it by saying Stoke had a 17m bid accepted and we also bid 16m.

I just don't understand why they would make that up. The Stoke headline is such a grabber we barely got noticed. It took @LinekersLegs to find the article and me translating it. I don't think it has even been reported by the British press.

It probably won't happen because it doesn't look like the player intends to come to the premier league since he did after all reject Liverpool 6 months ago and has said no to the Stoke bid and says he wants to stay. But who knows.

Personally I think he would be good especially if Kev is set on leaving.

 

[Goat]

I think we probably have. What do Sky Italia get out of it by saying Click BaitStoke had a 17m bid accepted and we also bid 16m. Click Bait

I just don't understand Click Baitwhy they would make that up.Click Bait The Stoke headline is such a grabber we barely got noticed.Click Bait It took @LinekersLegs to find the article and me translating it.Click Bait I don't think it has even been reported by the British press.Click Bait

It probably won't happen because it doesn't look like the player intends to come to the premier league since he did after all reject Liverpool 6 months agoClick Bait.

I agree.

 

[ijjysmith]

I think we probably have. What do Sky Italia get out of it by saying Stoke had a 17m bid accepted and we also bid 16m.

I just don't understand why they would make that up. The Stoke headline is such a grabber we barely got noticed. It took @LinekersLegs to find the article and me translating it. I don't think it has even been reported by the British press.

It probably won't happen because it doesn't look like the player intends to come to the premier league since he did after all reject Liverpool 6 months ago and has said no to the Stoke bid and says he wants to stay. But who knows.

Personally I think he would be good especially if Kev is set on leaving.

I'm fairly sure we didn't.

 

[marty mcfly]

I agree.

Sorry who is clicking on an article in Italian that's main focus is the fact that Stoke have had a bid accepted because Everton have bid slightly less.

Why why? Why make up the Everton part?

 

[Goat]

Sorry who is clicking on an Click Baitarticle in Italian that's main focus is the Click Baitfact that Stoke have had a bidClick Bait accepted because Everton have bid slightly less.

Why why? Why Click Baitmake up the Everton part?

Are you honestly sitting there asking me why the media make stuff up?

REALLY?