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davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Supposedly a different era now at Everton. That ruthlessness you mention has been argued to be there.
Any manager spending £150+M at this club in one window and falls on his arse deserves no mercy.
Minimum 5th...and a close 5th at that....or a cup win, or GTF.
a bell maul
Player Valuation: £30m
Hard to argue that we all enjoyed massively Martinez's first season. Was it the most enjoyable season watching Everton since the 1980s? Absolutely. I hope RK can bring enjoyable seasons to us soon. I think he can but it is going to be difficult in the face of the super 6 getting better and better and richer and richer .
I am unconvinced that final points total is more important than league finishing position, so I am not going down '72 points' discussions avenue. It's a bit of a red herring. I understand both sides of those wishing to debate it, and this forum is the proper place for such debate, but I think I might steer clear of fixed points totals like 72. For instance, if we get to 72 points the team will likely relax thinking 'job done'. I would be a bit miffed if we were leading the PL and downed tools at 72 points. We might have been champions except for a silly fixation on a pints target (72 points)
I might be going out on a limb here, but I would rather win the PL than finish the season on 72 points
I am unconvinced that final points total is more important than league finishing position, so I am not going down '72 points' discussions avenue. It's a bit of a red herring. I understand both sides of those wishing to debate it, and this forum is the proper place for such debate, but I think I might steer clear of fixed points totals like 72. For instance, if we get to 72 points the team will likely relax thinking 'job done'. I would be a bit miffed if we were leading the PL and downed tools at 72 points. We might have been champions except for a silly fixation on a pints target (72 points)
I might be going out on a limb here, but I would rather win the PL than finish the season on 72 points
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
....and you're dirty.
His target is to improve on last season, as long as you make progress it means you arent standing still or even, going from 5th to 11th, for the record, thats called falling off a cliff, if we finish any lower than 7th I will be requesting he walks.
Dirty Dutch
Player Valuation: £1m
You do know that there're other teams who have much better players and can attract much better players right???
You really think its like playing football manager.
Eggsyblueskin
Player Valuation: £40m
Do you sometimes imagine your actually the owner of Everton F.c.? Because you sound like you do. Neither I nor you know the criteria that Moshiri will use to judge the manager on at the seasons end. Short of relegation, I reckon he'll be our manager for the duration of his contract.
I'd not be upset were he to be gone tomorrow tbh, but it's one thing expecting ruthlessness it's another thing going OTT a season in advance of the possibility of him not doing so great but being kept on for the third season.
I know you like to build up your agendas and set out your stall early, but let's not be silly and claim that keeping him on on for one more season would be any disaster or big disgrace if he doesn't get 5th or a cup. I think the club would survive it, as much as I might not like it.
CRIMHEAD
Player Valuation: £40m
Dude, make up your mind. Is it total or net spend? If Lukaku is the greatest thing to ever happen to us, losing him should be a pretty big blow, no?
flibbyflob
Player Valuation: £40m
What about 2nd season syndrome?
It doesn't matter what Moshiri's criteria are when giving your opinion on what is good enough. Each fan I am sure has their own expectations and criteria in advance of any season even if unimportant to the club or majority shareholder.
CRIMHEAD
Player Valuation: £40m
So by that standard, Martinez should have been canned in his second year, correct?
a bell maul
Player Valuation: £30m
Slaven Bilic is under similar pressure with Mutante Club fans. Personally, I think they are a bit deluded. They are dross so why is Slav under the same pressure big Ron is?
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Albro
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I think the 72 points is an arbitrary number of what is rouphly needed for CL qualification and not a replacement for winning the league lol
a bell maul
Player Valuation: £30m
Not sure you can lay all the blame for that season's performance on Martinez. The players downed tools and lacked bottle. Don't get me wrong, Bobby was not a good manager, in fact he bordered on inept, but I think a more holistic critique needs to be applied
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