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Summer Transfer Window 2017

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His logic is horrible, he will probably say in summer 'letz sign Rooney he will giv us da winnin mentality we need hes betta than wha we got'

Yet Naismith is better than Kone should we sign him? probably BlueToff doesn't have clue about football like majority on here that's why Steve walsh will blow tens of millions on crap and get away with it because 'he signed Vardy'

Sorry to rant but can't believe he implied Steklen was good signing because played for roma LOL

Pretty sure @BlueToff works in football analysis.
Secondly, did you mean to type "the majority on here who disagree with my opinion"?
 
We need to target the next generation of 'big players' before they've been snapped up by the bigger clubs. Some will only want to move to Champions League teams but some, players like Tielemens, may well be open to a move to us as they'll be gauranteed playing time.

Instead of buying 1 or 2 of those players, who we might struggle to hold on to for long enough to build a team that can get top 4 before we have to move them on we need to try and get 3 or 4 of them, then add some really good players that aren't getting game time at big clubs to give us more experience.

There's enough quality players out there that could help get us in the top 4 if we target the right ones, imo.

I agree with your comments in general though.

I remember when we were linked with cech, hazard, essien and the like under moyes before they went into the big time.

Some players like Tielemans it would have been a no brainer to sign 2 years ago when I mentioned him here and we supposedly have scouts scouring the globe so you would hope Walsh commenting that he wants to bring in the best young talent is true.

Absolute 1st signing I would be making would be Ryan Sessegnon and negotiate a deal now with fulham if they go up or not.

2nd would be the new lukaku, tammy Abraham

3rd would be Youri Tielemans who I imagine wont be in a hurry.

3 absolute superstars there.

I hope we go for a top young keeper as well from somewhere who costs actual money.
 
I agree but we seem to be having trouble keeping the good ones who want CLF somewhere else.....what does that tell you The bottom line is we will be out muscled by bigger teams for better players and the good one we will buy will have already been frozen out by big clubs.

We would all like to see us buying CLF players but the reality so far has been none of the CLF players we have chased believe in the Everton project.

It,s down to the club to shock and awe the market, so far it,s not happened thus we buy players from the top 4 whom have been frozen out.
I understand what you are saying but there is an old saying that money talks... If Mosh and the board want us to be a top four team they need to start throwing out the big bucks. Sure a player is going to want CLF but if they see a team knocking on the door of CLF and they are being offered a big contract, it is a win/win
 

We aren't as rich as man city and they had a proper negotiation team we struggle to get deals over the line and it's been documented that there has been problems over negotiation in both windows, in fact koeman had to come out to the press after defeat to tell them to open their eyes

And lukaku has said he doesn't know the clubs ambition and implied their is not much money difference.

To date it mostly looks sell to buy even with the record TV money.

Where is it that lukaku said their is not much difference money wise mate?

Also if you look at the money we have spent in the last two windows. including managment changes we have spent well over 100mil. Compared to us making under 60 mil im player sales.

Mid table players, their alumni flatters to deceive, you going to make a case to sign Adebayor as he played for real madrid?

You are championing Brighton players mate. Players who will more then likely just go straight back down versus players that are vying for 6th or 5th place in the premier league. Next season they will conceded more then we have. So can you honestly say there cb and goalkeeper our better then ours?

I don't think it was Witsel as I do honestly believe Gueye is better.
Probably Depay (who manager said he wanted but clearly money wasn't there for)
Or even Gabbiadnani who looks much better than Steve walsh's Valencia

What do you mean the money wasn't there? We spent about 4 million less then what he went for on a 19 year old from charlton. Fact is depay played 33 games for man united and scored twice and look crap to bang average for most of his games in the prem. Yes he is having a good spell at lyon scoring 5 in 9 but we dont play in the french leauge.
Same with gabbiadnani for the money who was looking very good till he got injured but he has played less then 10 games for the saints so lets see where he is next season before we crusify the club for not buying him eh.
 
The whole "enticing big players" is somewhat of a chicken and egg argument.

It comes down to things we can control (contract terms and positioning of the club) vs. things we can't (bids and offers from rival clubs, player and agent reaction etc).

I would like to think that the relative disappointments last summer were largely down to Koeman and Walsh being new and appointed late, particularly in Walsh's case) to their roles. Added to this they both had to adapt to and deal with Kenwright and Elstone so inevitably there seemed to be an overlap and confusion. That simply cannot have been conducive to a more impressive hit-rate in signing the players we wanted.

Clearly, there are a group of elite players and perhaps many in the immediate tier below, that are out of our reach.

I don't accept though, and never have, that we are not an attractive proposition to that very large pool of players who would offer better than what we have currently.

I hope the problems of last summer were not lost on Moshiri and that this time around, we have streamlined our operation and are already well down the road in trying to get signings in.

Spurs were able to sign Luka Modric well before they had UCL football. It's players of that ilk - on the rise but perhaps not quite the finished article, who would improve themselves and us playing in a better league with more playing time, that typify the sort we have to attract.

Not every player is like Witsel. Yes it is largely about $$$ but good footballers are ambitious too and we should applaud that and not fear it.

We will be back in Europe, have a well-known and respected manager, fanatical and loyal fans, and a new majority shareholder who has brought improvement and vision and is looking for more. We have plenty to offer.
 
I remember when we were linked with cech, hazard, essien and the like under moyes before they went into the big time.

Some players like Tielemans it would have been a no brainer to sign 2 years ago when I mentioned him here and we supposedly have scouts scouring the globe so you would hope Walsh commenting that he wants to bring in the best young talent is true.

Absolute 1st signing I would be making would be Ryan Sessegnon and negotiate a deal now with fulham if they go up or not.

2nd would be the new lukaku, tammy Abraham

3rd would be Youri Tielemans who I imagine wont be in a hurry.

3 absolute superstars there.

I hope we go for a top young keeper as well from somewhere who costs actual money.

Would all be great signings and the kind of players I hope we're going to target.

I don't get to watch as many other teams as often as I did when I was younger but from what I have seen of those players they all look really good.

Watched a highlights vid of Abraham today and he looks like he'll become a quality player.
 
It's also an anagram of Wayne Rooney, make of that what u will... Most of the rest of the stuff is jarg in here mate, so thought I'd contribute lol although I have to say that's hilarious thats the first thing that came up on Google

You kinda failed though mate, an anagram of Wayne Rooney would have an R in it.
 

I'd like us to get

Pickford
Tete
Sessegnon
van Dijk
Keane
Tielemans
Sigurosson
Abraham

If we can't get those then

Paul Gerrard
Mitch Ward
Carl Tiler
Richard Gough
Don Hutchinson
Li Tie
Ibrahima Bakayoko
Mickaël Madar
 
I'll go:
Pickford
Sessegnon
Keane
Abraham
Iheanacho
Loftus-Cheek

All financed by selling Rom, Niasse, Cleverley and Del.
 

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