Summer transfer window 2023

[Exeter_Gently]

Great news Holgate not travelling. Looks to be off

If Him Keane and Maupay went this window that would be wonderful.

 

[WinifredE]

I said it yesterday, but this was around the time we gave Holgate that contract. It’s a bad contract with hindsight but probably made sense at the time, when he actually looked good.

For me the bigger issue than the contract he’s on is why so many players who look hugely promising at a young age go on to nothing but mediocrity at this club. Poor and constantly changing coaching? An air of complacency about the place?

This context is helpful - I do remember a period where he was flirting with the England squad but then got a fat injury and never recovered. However KT bashing is one this forums favourite topics and I would argue that Brands gets way more slack than he deserves - signing players onto large contracts, (big wages and for big fees). He also made some absolute hooners of transfers for example - Kean, Gbamin, Rondon, Josh King - and in total spent the best part of £300m on 26 players.

People seem to give Brands slack because he's been vocal about how he disagreed on transfers with Moshiri and the axis of evil around him but the conditions haven't changed for KT, arguably he had a tougher job as he has no money and has to reshape the entire squad both at academy level and at first team level

 

[sandybrownsbighead]

I said it yesterday, but this was around the time we gave Holgate that contract. It’s a bad contract with hindsight but probably made sense at the time, when he actually looked good.

For me the bigger issue than the contract he’s on is why so many players who look hugely promising at a young age go on to nothing but mediocrity at this club. Poor and constantly changing coaching? An air of complacency about the place?

Players do seem to fade at an alarming rate at Everton and I do wonder why. Early reviews of Tom Davies and Mykolenko, for example, have not aged well.

 

[Raino85]

This context is helpful - I do remember a period where he was flirting with the England squad but then got a fat injury and never recovered. However KT bashing is one this forums favourite topics and I would argue that Brands gets way more slack than he deserves - signing players onto large contracts, (big wages and for big fees). He also made some absolute hooners of transfers for example - Kean, Gbamin, Rondon, Josh King - and in total spent the best part of £300m on 26 players.

People seem to give Brands slack because he's been vocal about how he disagreed on transfers with Moshiri and the axis of evil around him but the conditions haven't changed for KT, arguably he had a tougher job as he has no money and has to reshape the entire squad both at academy level and at first team level

Brands only started speaking out and resigned when his position became untenable! He was happy to go along for the ride until the last possible minute!

 

[NathDogg]

Something is rotten at Everton and it’s squarely on moshiri and Kenwright, and how they have managed the club.

Selling kids to keep the lights on, little evidence of any of the money going to reinvest in a woefully shallow squad.

Not making moves, even for decent free agents (prob as we can’t afford their wages!) and maybe only doing any business (loans) after the season has already started, where there will be little quality left available.

What did we all say, after the last two seasons?

Never again?!

I’ve got news for everyone, it’s happening again, right now.

Where are the protests? Why have we gone silent again? If anything we should be escalating the process.

Moshiri out.
Kenwright out.
Thelwell out.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

This context is helpful - I do remember a period where he was flirting with the England squad but then got a fat injury and never recovered. However KT bashing is one this forums favourite topics and I would argue that Brands gets way more slack than he deserves - signing players onto large contracts, (big wages and for big fees). He also made some absolute hooners of transfers for example - Kean, Gbamin, Rondon, Josh King - and in total spent the best part of £300m on 26 players.

People seem to give Brands slack because he's been vocal about how he disagreed on transfers with Moshiri and the axis of evil around him but the conditions haven't changed for KT, arguably he had a tougher job as he has no money and has to reshape the entire squad both at academy level and at first team level

Completely agree, and let’s not leave Walsh out of it either. KT hasn’t been perfect (assuming Maupay was his call) but he’s operating in an environment where he has to unwind the mistakes of the past as well as try to move us forwards. And we probably don’t know half of what he’s up against at this basket case club.

It’s hard enough to maintain a PL squad with a break even transfer policy, we’re significantly in transfer profit under Thelwell and yet he still seemingly hasn’t anything to spend because of the great many mistakes made by others. Time will tell but I’m still very much inclined to cut him some slack in an almost impossible environment.

 

[dutchblue54]

I said it yesterday, but this was around the time we gave Holgate that contract. It’s a bad contract with hindsight but probably made sense at the time, when he actually looked good.

For me the bigger issue than the contract he’s on is why so many players who look hugely promising at a young age go on to nothing but mediocrity at this club. Poor and constantly changing coaching? An air of complacency about the place?

haha how odd this Mirror message looks now. Stones winning trophies left right and centre and we are flogging off Holgate even on a loan to the first taker that he agrees to

 

[spectateur]

Players do seem to fade at an alarming rate at Everton and I do wonder why. Early reviews of Tom Davies and Mykolenko, for example, have not aged well.

Perhaps they're paid too much.
They become too comfy, not hungry enough.

 

[DL100]

Sitting here thinking we should have never sacked Martinez (I’m pretty sure I wanted him gone at the time as well), just been patient until that summer, and then give him the massive budget to sort the defence out and add a bit more talent up top.
Every decision since then has been to the detriment

mulling is my favourite, I take absolutely no notice until the club starts to mull.

Dont be ridiculous.

Martinez was the start of the downfall and for every good player he brought in, he brought in a terrible one.

He wasn't interested in sorting the defence, that wasn't his style of football.

Martinez needed to go. He would have relegated us.

If any manager in hindsight we should have been patient with it was Silva.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

Brands only started speaking out and resigned when his position became untenable! He was happy to go along for the ride until the last possible minute!

Yup, exactly. Seven figures a year and a seat on the board and nothing was his fault. And even if he was being overruled by BK and FM, well part of such an important and well paid job is managing upwards and being persuasive enough to run things your way, not being happy to sit back and take the money to not do your job.

 

[The Binman]

Something is rotten at Everton and it’s squarely on moshiri and Kenwright, and how they have managed the club.

Selling kids to keep the lights on, little evidence of any of the money going to reinvest in a woefully shallow squad.

Not making moves, even for decent free agents (prob as we can’t afford their wages!) and maybe only doing any business (loans) after the season has already started, where there will be little quality left available.

What did we all say, after the last two seasons?

Never again?!

I’ve got news for everyone, it’s happening again, right now.

Where are the protests? Why have we gone silent again? If anything we should be escalating the process.

Moshiri out.
Kenwright out.
Thelwell out.

protests will come when we're up the creek without the paddle (striker) later in the season, it will become very obvious well before Christmas i feel.

This squad surely isn't good enough. We don't want to challenge for 17th!

My view is like it ornot, we will be hard working, sometimes hard to beat, but we won't score enough, so the status quo remains the same, battle for every point we can, will it be enough? Will DCL be fit for the whole season, will he be able to have a good season with 15 or more goals? Will we have the creativity, at this juncture i don't think so. It remains to be argued / seen whether we will add enough quality this window to aid what we have.

We need change at the top rapid.

 

[DL100]

I'm not stressing about this window until the season starts.

I said to myself I wouldn't let Everton bother me this summer and I'm not.

We will make signings, we cant afford not too and Moshiri cant risk his investment, he needs to be in the PL when we move.

My only worry is that we don't improve the first 11 enough before the start of the season. we have a decent start and some winnable games. it cant be left until deadline day.

 

[sandybrownsbighead]

Perhaps they're paid too much.
They become too comfy, not hungry enough.

If it's too comfy here then God help them anywhere else

 

[diggerdestroyer]

If Him Keane and Maupay went this window that would be wonderful.

Keane is my worry . cannot stand another season where that marshmallow is a starting center back. he isn't the worst player in the squad but I said it 3 years ago he is the first one I would sell.

 

[Paul Rideout]

If Him Keane and Maupay went this window that would be wonderful.

Honestly those three out… I’d take Ashley Young at utility cover, Rodrigo as oap CF and Kanchelskis out of retirement to play on the right.