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Summer transfer window 2023

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Dougie said:
We are wondering what’s going on. Some think it’s doomsday and we have not a single Penny to spend. Others think we have got money, but the club has no leadership and no one taken responsibility. Others like me are hoping that we are being sensible and making sure we pick the right players due to the position we found ourselves. Either way it’s guess work from all of us. And the only way we will find out who is right is when the window slams shut.
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For me it's the statement Dyche made after the Bournemouth game is starting to sound like BS.As stated earlier if you say your going to play next season with pace and power you don't offer contracts to the likes of Davies and Coleman.
 

davids said:
For me it's the statement Dyche made after the Bournemouth game is starting to sound like BS.As stated earlier if you say your going to play next season with pace and power you don't offer contracts to the likes of Davies and Coleman.
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Just a question as i genuinely dont know but is it Dyche who makes those decisions or is it Thelwell or a combination of the 2?
 
sharpsvoll84 said:
You obviously have a massive downer on Dyche mate. The fella kept us up with a garbage squad and hasnt had the chance to bring anyone in for us let alone improve anyone. I dont think in the current situation we could get have a better manager for the inevitable slog of next season without any investment in the team. How about get off his case and at least wait til see if we struggle next season before giving the guy stick eh?
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Keeping Everton up mostly because fewer points were needed than what was expected. While Everton having loads of margins and picking up more points than you should expect based on performances.

Dyche did OK. It is not the five months in charge of Everton that makes me concerned. It is the lack of willingness to adapt to the modern game and stubbornness that got Burnley relegated. Dyche was brilliant for Burnley, but holding on to him too long was the main reason they got relegated. The team played better football under the interim U21 manager than they did under Dyche.

The game has changed. Dyche teams used to have a massive edge on set pieces. Both offensive and defensive. 10-15 goal swing a season. But since other clubs started focusing more on set pieces, many of them have designated set piece coaches now, Dyche teams seems average at best on set pieces.

How the top teams now are crowding the midfield had also made the classic Dyche 442 less effective. Teams can easily move one defender into midfield and attack with two or three extra more players.

I like Dyche, but Dyche as a manager in 2023 is no better than Allardyce in 2018.
 
caliblue said:
I am not comparing. Not at all.

What I mean is that there have hardly been players that have improved while being coached by Dyche. It is all about the collective and not about individuals. Recipe for disaster. Everton need to improve players with an expectation to sell with profit.

When a team mostly play long balls 10 meters over the midfielders head and are happy with the opponent dominate and have most possession, no midfielders will look good. It is all about giving players the possibility to shine. As soon as Nick Pope for signed Newcastle it became obvious that he was a lot better with the ball at his feet than anyone expected him to be. They were concerned at Brentford when they signed the limited Ben Mee, but he has been a revelation. So good with the ball.

People are raving, for good reason, about the football Brighton are playing under De Zerbi. Especially when playing out from the back. Pep said Brighton does it better than any other team in the world. And in centre and most important while doing it is Lewis Dunk. A 31 year old doing things no one ever expected from him 12 months ago. Because he is coached by a manager that wants to improve the players and that wants to play with a style and identity.

Dyche is likely to shave 20-30% off the market value from the squad per season. While increasing the average age of the squad year on year. That makes him the most expensive manager in the world. Keeping Dyche probably cost the club more than a relegation.

Which is why it makes sense to sell those we can get money for and replace them with grey nobodies. Until the club can afford a manager that is more concerned about developing players on training than what they are wearing.
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It’s an interesting take. You appear to be assessing the diminishing value of players under Dyche which is driven by his style of play and tactics. Have you considered that Dyche‘s own value and his performance re style of play and tactics was driven by Burnley, their attractiveness and their budget? (I appreciate that we are not a million miles away from Burnley in terms of outside perception currently)

I am hopeful that he is pragmatic, but with the right players would develop a style of play beyond what he has shown so far - he’s provided an indication that he is prepared to do this when he was doing the media rounds touting for jobs - this would hopefully allow an appreciation in value of individuals). What would your take be on Dyche’s potential to do this which woukd go beyond what you have seen from him to this point?
 

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