BluenosePaul
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You're all forgetting the £20-25m we 'may' have to spend will include signing on fees, agent fees + wages. No way can we spend £20m on one player.
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25 mill to spend????
There is absolutley no chance in the world we will spend 25 mill in the summer - i would be amazed and slightly concerned.
There is absolutley no chance in the world we will spend 25 mill in the summer - i would be amazed and slightly concerned.
tim cahill
Player Valuation: £50m
I doubt we'd be paying 100% up front anyway mate. Didn't Kenwright once say "you don't need £10 million to buy an £10 million player"? Or was that moyes?
tim cahill
Player Valuation: £50m
Why would you be concerned?
Pretty much because because the last time we spent 25mill in the summer, 3/4 seasons later the bank tore apart our squad and we needed to fire sale. Right at a time when we needed to invest.
Toffeelover
Player Valuation: £80m
Is Lukaku worth 25 mill? It was my post way back that brought this figure up from the quote in the mirror. Sit back all for the moment and think where did that Rag get the figure from? One cannot trust paper stories and they with the Sun were also pushing Spurs interest which has to said today was denied by Chelsea.
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Aidey9
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Yes we need a boss striker, but we also need players in other positions IMO and IF we blow all our budget on Rom, it leaves sweet FA for us to bring in other needed players.
I think we need first and foremost, a striker definitely, we all know that. Then i think we need a creative CM or AM who's quite versatile and can fill in other positions just as good as his natural position, for me that would be Tadic. Can play in CM, his best position for me is in behind the striker but is just as comfortable out wide as he started his career as a winger.
Then i think we need to seriously look at bringing in someone to eventually replace Distin. Yes he's got another year on his contract but he cant go on forever so i think it would be best to bring someone in this summer so Distin can take him under his wing ready for the new lad to eventually take over from him
So for me we definitely need to sign Barry permanently, sign a CB to evetually take over from Distin (Bruno Martins-Indi, Hector Moreno, Martin Hinteregger, Davide Astori, Fredrik Sorensen, take your pick). Then a creative player who's a bit of a jack of all trades, someone like Tadic or Firmino but he could be too pricey after weve sorted out other deals or a loan move for someone like Rafinha off of Barca?.
But i also think we need another striker apart from Lukaku or someone else IF we cant sign him. Maybe Traore on loan for a season could be an option, but if Monaco sell Falcao then they'll want to keep Traore themselves. Maybe someone like Drmic who looks a talent and apparently as a release clause of less than £5m?!. Does have alot of interest in him though!
All this is based on IF we make the CL though for me, along with the money left over from sales, they'll be the revenue from the CL that will allow us to go on such a spree.
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Aidey9
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In the summer Kenwright did give Martinez a few quid, and he spent most of it on Kone, Joel, a deal for Alcaraz and a loan deal for Deulofeu. That must of been what was put up from the first installment of the new tv money.
Then we sold Felli, Anichebe & Jelavic for nearly £40m but spent £13m of that on McCarthy, leaving us around about £27m, but then you've got to think about what we paid out for for the likes of Barry, Lukaku, McGeady & Traore?!
So i reckon before sales again, and before any type of Europe, we'll have about £20m to spend, make some sort of Europe then who knows what will get added to that, IF it's CL then it could be a very good kitty, could be upto £40m or more i bet as CL is worth summat like £40m to clubs, but i cant see all of that being put towards the transfer kitty.
Either way, by are standards, we'll have a decent kitty come the summer.
Toffeelover
Player Valuation: £80m
One thing about signing Barry is no money spent on transfer fee just wages so frees up cash for some one else.
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Aidey9
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That is correct mate. these days you pay in installments. You pay a lump sum upfront and then the rest over the length of the first contract, then bonus's based on achievements etc.
Lukaku may well be valued at £20-25m by Chelsea, but say he goes for £25m, you'd probably pay about £10-15m upfront and rest on drip over time.
The thing that bugs me is, they Bought him for £18m, not all upfront, some upfront and rest based on performance related bonus's but he's hardly played enough games or scored enough goals for Chelsea for them to be forking out more of the fee they agreed with Anderlecht, so in theory who ever buys Lukaku will be paying Anderlecht for Chelsea aswell as lining there pockets!
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Aidey9
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It's been in a few papers tbf mate so it's been plucked from somewhere?!. But if im honest, i dont think he's worth more than £20m right now, no way.
Surely, if those performance payments apply to games he plays only at Chelsea, then the next club doesn't have to take those payments? If the case is like that, then most certainly his games for West Brom and Everton must have triggered the clauses. He's been performing regularly for belgium as well, like. Surely we'll be rid of any clauses Anderlecht have if we take him on a perm.
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Aidey9
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Im just thinking about the fee Chelsea have in agreement with Anderlecht, im certain Chelsea wont of paid all of the £18m and probably never will IF they end up selling him, but Anderlecht will certainly have a cut of the profits from any sale and thats probably why his value is so high so that Chelsea make a nice amount on him, even after giving Anderlecht a bit from his sale aswell.
I'd take Lukaku at anything up to £25m, if the money is there to put in enough up front to get Chelsea to sell. He's young and will get better, and he's already good. More importantly, I think Martinez can help him develop. With Benteke's injury threatening his WC participation, Lukaku MIGHT play a bigger role this summer, pushing his price up - I say we take him asap.
I would NOT take Barry on a permanent. He's virtually at the end of his career: part of the reason he picks up so many yellows is that his pace (never his strongest asset) is on a downward spiral. Yes he's been great this season, but you have to know when to cut your ties - I think Barkley's long-term future is next to McCarthy.
It was interesting to read in the telegraph sports supplement today that Martinez envisions Baines moving into a central midfield slot in future, in a similar fashion to Lahm. If this is true, then I see no space in the squad for at least one of Barry or Gibson, and it suggests that Oviedo is gonna be our LB of choice in the near future.
The one I would LOVE to see is Deulofeu on a permanent. He's on the verge of being a very special player, and he can play in the RW and 10 positions - two spots in which we lack depth. I would also like to see Lallana come to us to play in the same two spots, but if he has a good World Cup he'll be out of our price range. Either way, someone needs to fill the spot that Osman will soon vacate in the 10 position.
De Guzman from Swansea would be another one that interests me. Lots of Prem / international experience, can play more than one position... but he'll be 27 in September so it's this summer or never, I think.
I would NOT take Barry on a permanent. He's virtually at the end of his career: part of the reason he picks up so many yellows is that his pace (never his strongest asset) is on a downward spiral. Yes he's been great this season, but you have to know when to cut your ties - I think Barkley's long-term future is next to McCarthy.
It was interesting to read in the telegraph sports supplement today that Martinez envisions Baines moving into a central midfield slot in future, in a similar fashion to Lahm. If this is true, then I see no space in the squad for at least one of Barry or Gibson, and it suggests that Oviedo is gonna be our LB of choice in the near future.
The one I would LOVE to see is Deulofeu on a permanent. He's on the verge of being a very special player, and he can play in the RW and 10 positions - two spots in which we lack depth. I would also like to see Lallana come to us to play in the same two spots, but if he has a good World Cup he'll be out of our price range. Either way, someone needs to fill the spot that Osman will soon vacate in the 10 position.
De Guzman from Swansea would be another one that interests me. Lots of Prem / international experience, can play more than one position... but he'll be 27 in September so it's this summer or never, I think.
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