Sunderland afc

[davek]

Mate, a lorry load of Viagra wouldnt have kept them up for long.

I dont know. Another manager would have gone in there and got rid of dead wood and tried to bring in some decent players. He spent £35M on trash: Djilibodji £8M; N'Dong £14M....Gibson £4M!! and loaned some over the hill players or those racked by injuries.

Basically, he didn't do his home work and couldn't be arsed, and now Sunderland are getting set for League One.

 

[roydo]

I dont know. Another manager would have gone in there and got rid of dead wood and tried to bring in some decent players. He spent £35M on trash: Djilibodji £8M; N'Dong £14M....Gibson £4M!! and loaned some over the hill players or those racked by injuries.

Basically, he didn't do his home work and couldn't be arsed, and now Sunderland are getting set for League One.

Blimey. Forgot what he spent, and on who!

 

[Sunderland afc]

Awful result indeed mate. Yep, I fear I may have been wrong and you may have been right - relegation does seem inevitable at this stage. When teams like Brentford are coming to the SOL and playing us off the park, something is drastically wrong.

If we lose to Bolton midweek, I can't see us recovering.

I can't even be bothered to give my usual in-depth analysis of what went wrong & who had a poor game. The entire team, from back-to-front was lackluster, slow and just generally all over the place.

We could have still being playing now and we still wouldn't have scored. If we do go down as expected, we need to stick with Coleman, he'll need to rebuild from scratch. No point in sacking him and starting this long process all over again.

Absolutely gutted at the moment

We're down. We are Terrible.

 

[Safc-mark-91]

It was an article via twitter, I thought it was Roker Report but the formatting on that site doesn't look right. It was a pretty long article, i'll see if i can find it again. It was just after the chief exec had said protesting would upset the young players.

I don't think surviving in this league would actually be a positive. Better to clean house over the summer I think.

Thanks mate. Be interesting to read it, I must have missed that one.

If we do survive, it'll be another tough season next year as there still won't be any money available for transfers. So, we'll have to rely on youth for the next 2-3 seasons. We need an entire new structure and identify. Wholesale changes are needed, both on and off the park.

I think protesting is a last resort, but that's where we are. I do think, some fans blame Short 100% for our current predicament, I think that's harsh, I think he has to carry most the blame, but let's not forget successive management failures for playing their part in this monumental balls-up. For example, Gus Poyet wasted 20m on utter crap, players who were loaned out of sold off for a fraction of what we paid for them. You can't say Short hasn't backed his managers with serious cash, he's just made woeful bad decisions along the way. You could even go way back to Roy Keane, who paid 6m for Chopra, 9m for Craig Gordon etc...That was the start of us living beyond our means where we were existing at a consistent 'loss' financially wise. It just got worse and worse, until it got out of control - now we're suffering for that.

Fundamentally, to be in this much debt, Short and the board has to accept responsibility.

W could easily go 10+ years before we're back in the Premiership.

 

[Toast]

I'll be honest, when Coleman took over I was really surprised. Had a ridiculously safe national team job where even getting close to qualification for a major finals was a success, let alone the semis of one.

Then I read he has money issues and joined for the extra cash and I thought that was just adding petrol to the fire.

As I've mentioned earlier, some of your fanzines are seriously well written. I read one that made a passionate case for protesting , how it wasn't "Mag behaviour" (we used to get the same about "kopite behaviour" against Kenwright) and I thought it was a far cry from a lot the Sunderland rubbish I'd seen on here and online.

But those protests haven't materialised because too many of your fans still want to be "everyone's second club" and some moral counterweight to the Geordies.... even if it means the end of the club. Madness.

Coleman is an horrific character who evicted his wife and kids from the family home so he could shack up with the bird from sky sports.
His own career ended when he crashed his motor drunk.
An utter tit.
Deserves all he gets.
His 'safe' job was built on the back of ONE player, Bale.
He's a crap manager, always has been.

 

[Yarrgh]

I dont know. Another manager would have gone in there and got rid of dead wood and tried to bring in some decent players. He spent £35M on trash: Djilibodji £8M; N'Dong £14M....Gibson £4M!! and loaned some over the hill players or those racked by injuries.

Basically, he didn't do his home work and couldn't be arsed, and now Sunderland are getting set for League One.

Sheesh, that makes me feel more like accepting Big Scam. That's some junk he bought there.

 

[davek]

Sheesh, that makes me feel more like accepting Big Scam. That's some junk he bought there.

He should never have gotten another PL job again after that. That was wilful damage.

 

[orly]

Thanks mate. Be interesting to read it, I must have missed that one.

If we do survive, it'll be another tough season next year as there still won't be any money available for transfers. So, we'll have to rely on youth for the next 2-3 seasons. We need an entire new structure and identify. Wholesale changes are needed, both on and off the park.

I think protesting is a last resort, but that's where we are. I do think, some fans blame Short 100% for our current predicament, I think that's harsh, I think he has to carry most the blame, but let's not forget successive management failures for playing their part in this monumental balls-up. For example, Gus Poyet wasted 20m on utter crap, players who were loaned out of sold off for a fraction of what we paid for them. You can't say Short hasn't backed his managers with serious cash, he's just made woeful bad decisions along the way. You could even go way back to Roy Keane, who paid 6m for Chopra, 9m for Craig Gordon etc...That was the start of us living beyond our means where we were existing at a consistent 'loss' financially wise. It just got worse and worse, until it got out of control - now we're suffering for that.

Fundamentally, to be in this much debt, Short and the board has to accept responsibility.

W could easily go 10+ years before we're back in the Premiership.

https://rokerreport.sbnation.com/20...ans-groups-this-week-is-protest-still-a-no-no

This one mate.

 

[larbert toffee]

Coleman is an horrific character who evicted his wife and kids from the family home so he could shack up with the bird from sky sports.
His own career ended when he crashed his motor drunk.
An utter tit.
Deserves all he gets.
His 'safe' job was built on the back of ONE player, Bale.
He's a crap manager, always has been.

Don't sit on the fence Toast.

 

[Safc-mark-91]

https://rokerreport.sbnation.com/20...ans-groups-this-week-is-protest-still-a-no-no

This one mate.

Good read that mate - thanks.

There would certainly be a touch of irony if a full-on protest was arranged, considering that's the very thing we mock Newcastle fans of doing! (Like you correctly pointed out) But, we're way, way past thinking what they think. This is the only option left, things simply can't continue as they are.

It's probably too late to save this season, but we need long-term changes and Short/Bain/Board room staff need to leave this club ASAP.

I'm currently subconsciously preparing myself for league 1, so it doesn't hurt as much....I keep trying to delude myself that it's not the end of the world, as Southampton and Leicester have dropped to league 1 and recovered (eventually) but then I realise, our plight is much, much worse as they weren't absolutely crippled with debt like us.

It's like a bad dream.

 

[Brendan Janus]

Good read that mate - thanks.

There would certainly be a touch of irony if a full-on protest was arranged, considering that's the very thing we mock Newcastle fans of doing! (Like you correctly pointed out) But, we're way, way past thinking what they think. This is the only option left, things simply can't continue as they are.

It's probably too late to save this season, but we need long-term changes and Short/Bain/Board room staff need to leave this club ASAP.

I'm currently subconsciously preparing myself for league 1, so it doesn't hurt as much....

Not a problem, as long as you don't attempt to chin a police horse !!

 

[orly]

Uh-oh

 

[Sunderland afc]

Losing again lol

 

[Toast]

Losing again lol

Been losing for a while tonight though..

 

[orly]

Been losing for a while tonight though..

That one is the end of the road I think.

Relegation confirmed.