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Surviving Gazza...
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Basil Fawlty
Player Valuation: £35m
What, no more nitpicking my grammar?
if you read the post you refer to as a "racist slur" you will indeed find that the slur was against you and not any specific race
trebilcock66
Player Valuation: £8m
Blimey lads.
Haven't you got anything better to do than this?
Robin, I've long admired your measured and cogent contributions on here - don't spoil it mate. If you're gonna have a go at grammar etc, you'll have lots of opportunities as the spelling is bit flexible sometimes. Take a look at Coyney's posts - he admits he doesn't do punctuation at all but I still love his posts as he's a fellow blue.
I don't come on here for correct english. I log on because I've got blue blood in my veins and I need to commune with my fellow addicts.
Bas, mate, I think Robin's an englishman. I suspect you're winding him up by going down the 'if you were english you'd understand.' route. Agree that the grammar criticism was misplaced but why rise to it?
I think Gazza was boss. Robin and Basil too.
Let peace reign.
Signed Bank Quay (I grew up in Warrington) Moon
Haven't you got anything better to do than this?
Robin, I've long admired your measured and cogent contributions on here - don't spoil it mate. If you're gonna have a go at grammar etc, you'll have lots of opportunities as the spelling is bit flexible sometimes. Take a look at Coyney's posts - he admits he doesn't do punctuation at all but I still love his posts as he's a fellow blue.
I don't come on here for correct english. I log on because I've got blue blood in my veins and I need to commune with my fellow addicts.
Bas, mate, I think Robin's an englishman. I suspect you're winding him up by going down the 'if you were english you'd understand.' route. Agree that the grammar criticism was misplaced but why rise to it?
I think Gazza was boss. Robin and Basil too.
Let peace reign.
Signed Bank Quay (I grew up in Warrington) Moon
Nebbiolo
Valuation: £108 million
Robin Sisland
Player Valuation: £5m
Cheers for that. I only picked up on his grammar because he started in with the absurd 'Gazza can play better football with his little finger than your whole family since the dawn of time argument' which I didn't find a terribly intelligent line of debate.
Hence I was taking piss. But you're right prodding a rabid hamster through the bars of its cage and watching it work itself into a frenzy isn't very adult either. But it was funny for a few minutes.
And if you look back I'm pretty sure I've never commented on anyone's grammar spelling before - even though there's been times I've had to read posts out to work out what they were saying.
I still think Gazza is overrated.
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NeoNaoNeo
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Grammar Nazis are pretty funny though. It takes a pretty ignorant view of language to believe that there is a stringent set of ethereal rules. The whole point is that he's encoding text, cyphers that have no meaning other than what we give them. In that vein, as long as he uses his language in a way that I am able to decipher the meaning he is trying to convey, his use of language is correct and in no way 'wrong'. So picking apart his grammar is pointless as his language is 100% correct.
Tl;dr, grammar is mutually subjective, grammar Nazis are never right. Usually they're just substituting a lack of credent argument with nitpicking.
Tl;dr, grammar is mutually subjective, grammar Nazis are never right. Usually they're just substituting a lack of credent argument with nitpicking.
I didnt understand a word you have just wrote.
Robin Sisland
Player Valuation: £5m
I do.
Quick translation:
Grammar rules only exist because we allow them to. If we understand each other then the rules we've mutually accepted are sufficient.
Which goes somewhat further than the more generally accepted 'descriptive' view of 'correct grammar' being a description of what is mutually accepted by the wider language group as being correct.
NeoNaoNeo's argument falls down because without a generally accepted description of a standard form there's nothing to stop the language fracturing into myriad mutually unintelligible argots.
A frightening prospect, as anyone who's been to the North East can surely confirm.
Quick translation:
Grammar rules only exist because we allow them to. If we understand each other then the rules we've mutually accepted are sufficient.
Which goes somewhat further than the more generally accepted 'descriptive' view of 'correct grammar' being a description of what is mutually accepted by the wider language group as being correct.
NeoNaoNeo's argument falls down because without a generally accepted description of a standard form there's nothing to stop the language fracturing into myriad mutually unintelligible argots.
A frightening prospect, as anyone who's been to the North East can surely confirm.
And again.
trebilcock66
Player Valuation: £8m
NeoNaoNeo
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Quite. However, can you really argue that this hasn't happened already? Dialect, slang, it's the natural progression of language. This isn't at the crux of what I was arguing against though. You were simply having a go at spelling mistakes and sentence structure, even though you knew exactly what he was getting at from what he wrote. You just had a problem with a technicality. Which, as I've argued, is pointless seeing as how if you know what he meant he isn't wrong.
And Mikel, I'm sorry if you don't understand everything I say. Maybe an online thesaurus? Some of the words aren't particularly taxing.
Gents can we get back on topic, this grammatical debate is getting rather banal.
NeoNaoNeo
Banned - Abuse Towards Forum Staff
I was quite enjoying it
.As sad as it is to see Gazza's decline I find it hard to sympathise too much with alcoholics. I know it's a disease, but, maybe it's just something built into me. Always seemed more self-inflicted than anything else.
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