The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

[Jib in lad]

Surprised they havnt done that more imo. But the BBC have led all day with the personal attack on Ed, when Trident is actually quite important. And like you say, puts Labour on the spot.

And the SNP have never really explained why its an ace idea to lose 0000's of highly skilled jobs to pursue an idealogical agenda.

That's because Labour have answered the Trident question they have said they will definitely build 3 but if the experts say we need 4 they will build 4 its a none story that's why the personal attack has dominated the airwaves today.

 

[roydo]

That's because Labour have answered the Trident question they have said they will definitely build 3 but if the experts say we need 4 they will build 4 its a none story that's why the personal attack has dominated the airwaves today.

But the SNP have said its a red line in any negotiations.

Ed. "Will you support us in *insert random policy*?"

Nicola. "Will you get rid of Trident?"

Ed. "No"

Nicola "No"

Rinse and repeat.

 

[Jib in lad]

But the SNP have said its a red line in any negotiations.

Ed. "Will you support us in *insert random policy*?"

Nicola. "Will you get rid of Trident?"

Ed. "No"

Nicola "No"

Rinse and repeat.

Miliband has said no chance of a coalition so lets say Labour wanted to get something through on education can you see Sturgeon bringing up Trident it wont happen.

 

[roydo]

Miliband has said no chance of a coalition so lets say Labour wanted to get something through on education can you see Sturgeon bringing up Trident it wont happen.

Yeah, my example was a bit extreme, but the point remains. The SNP will play the Labour party like a flute. And I dont think the Tories have maxed out on that too well.

It holds more resonance with the English than what Ed did or didnt do to his brother 5 years ago.

 

[edge]

Butitthe SNP have said its a red line in any negotiations.

Ed. "Will you support us in *insert random policy*?"

Nicola. "Will you get rid of Trident?"

Ed. "No"

Nicola "No"

Rinse and repeat.

Snp fella on today , was all over the place on It, saying they would vote through labour spending plan for the parliment which includes tritent costs then withdraw it when trident came up as an issue, which would make it no more than a protest as the others would vote it through, they are all over the place at the minute, there quest for fiscal independence has backfired it doesn't stack up.
On trident it was passed by Labour at there congress so its a pretty weak story anyway

 

[roydo]

Snp fella on today , was all over the place on It, saying they would vote through labour spending plan for the parliment which includes tritent costs then withdraw it when trident came up as an issue, which would make it no more than a protest as the others would vote it through, they are all over the place at the minute, there quest for fiscal independence has backfired it doesn't stack up.
On trident it was passed by Labour at there congress so its a pretty weak story anyway

It is in a way, cos as you say, the Tories would back a Trident spend anyrate. Probably.

But The SNP would be seen to be supporting a party which their "red line" is in direct opposition to them. But it will interesting one way or another.

 

[daylightrobber]

Yeah, my example was a bit extreme, but the point remains. The SNP will play the Labour party like a flute. And I dont think the Tories have maxed out on that too well.

It holds more resonance with the English than what Ed did or didnt do to his brother 5 years ago.

I'm not so sure. The SNP could soon find themselves in a tricky position. Labour are waging that the SNP will never oppose a Labour minority government as this will put the Tories back into office. By not offering a coalition to the SNP they are not offering them any power at all should they gain enough seats to form government (or should a Tory minority not clear the first hurdle).

On the other hand. Labour's calculations could be wrong and the Conservatives could bend over and take it from behind from the SNP. To get SNP support for the Conservative's Queen's Speech queue Gideon promising to divert more money over the border and Dave offering more power to Holyrood in exchange for lowering the no. of Scottish seats in Westminster.

The SNP are dangerous, but not because of any potential support for Labour. Things couldn't be further from the truth.

 

[davek]

On the other hand. Labour's calculations could be wrong and the Conservatives could bend over and take it from behind from the SNP. To get SNP support for the Conservative's Queen's Speech queue Gideon promising to divert more money over the border and Dave offering more power to Holyrood in exchange for lowering the no. of Scottish seats in Westminster.

The SNP are dangerous, but not because of any potential support for Labour. Things couldn't be further from the truth.

That would be political suicide for the SNP. They'd be wiped out in short order in Scotland if they ever had any dealings with the Tories.

 

[roydo]

support for Labour.

Oh sure, they loath each other. Like you say, nothing is guaranteed, at all. And if Scotland totally trash Labour, (likely), how the SNP fare up there by supporting them could be tricky.

Again, like you say, if the SNP prop up a Tory party, whilst unpalatable to them, in Scotland, it could be sold as screwing concessions/cash out of the English toffs.

Interesting days ahead.

 

[roydo]

That would be political suicide for the SNP. They'd be wiped out in short order in Scotland if they ever had any dealings with the Tories.

Even if it benefited Scotland by supporting Scottish Light policies? Not so sure. They are a canny and cheeky lot the Scots. Why they are so ace.

Might appeal to their sense of humour almost.

 

[1966efc]

Some very strange things happening in the private polls. In one Tory held marginal not too far from Liverpool, Labour are shown as eleven points ahead. Not an isolated case.

 

[daylightrobber]

That would be political suicide for the SNP. They'd be wiped out in short order in Scotland if they ever had any dealings with the Tories.

Which ever way it goes, it is looking likely that the Scottish people will be governed from Westminster once again by a party that has little support north of the border. The Scots will look after themselves and the SNP definitely want independence asap. This is more likely to be achieved under the Tories. When push comes to shove and pacts are being negotiated, there will be all sorts of dealings going on that the general public will never know about.

 

[Jib in lad]

Some very strange things happening in the private polls. In one Tory held marginal not too far from Liverpool, Labour are shown as eleven points ahead. Not an isolated case.

I really hope that's Esther Mcvey's seat.

 

[davek]

Even if it benefited Scotland by supporting Scottish Light policies? Not so sure. They are a canny and cheeky lot the Scots. Why they are so ace.

Might appeal to their sense of humour almost.

They wouldn't have any credibility after dealing with them. Short term gain for long term pain. That'a not being canny.

 

[sbbefc]

Any involvement involving the tories is toxic for any party other than UKIP. Case in point the Lib Dems.