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You so have to hand it to Australia, also England once again looked gassed on day 5. I have doubts about Robinson as a second innings bowler on flatter pitches due to fitness.
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The Ashes 2023
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peteblue
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Strangely I can’t think of a single person, in real life, who thought that was a good decision…..
Too early for that. Yes he had a bad game but I wouldn't back against him.
If there are similar pitches though then there's an argument to leave him out
Ricky Ponting does!
Hinchcliffe's Corner
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If we had got Aus 2-10 on day one, which you'd back Broad to do, it would have been brilliant. Didn't come off, but didn't cost England the test match, their butter fingers did.
Poor wicketkeeping and a bad declaration are the main reasons they lost.
The second innings batting was careless too. For 10 players to make double figures but no half centuries, is a complete lack of application.
Its a game of fine margins but England came up short at lots of key moments.
Declaring on day 1 with Root in incredible form.
Dropped catches and stumpings by Bairstow.
The no ball by Broad off the bowled.
Root Brook and Bairstow throwing their wickets away when set yesterday.
The bowlers running out of steam in the final session
When you have Australia down you cannot try to cut corners and allow them a route back into the match. They are a top side, with lots of mentally tough winners, and they will find a way to punish you if you don't keep the pressure on.
The style isn't the issue for England. Game awareness, and basic errors were the problem.
The second innings batting was careless too. For 10 players to make double figures but no half centuries, is a complete lack of application.
Its a game of fine margins but England came up short at lots of key moments.
Declaring on day 1 with Root in incredible form.
Dropped catches and stumpings by Bairstow.
The no ball by Broad off the bowled.
Root Brook and Bairstow throwing their wickets away when set yesterday.
The bowlers running out of steam in the final session
When you have Australia down you cannot try to cut corners and allow them a route back into the match. They are a top side, with lots of mentally tough winners, and they will find a way to punish you if you don't keep the pressure on.
The style isn't the issue for England. Game awareness, and basic errors were the problem.
If England had made 430 instead of 390, they wouldn't be behind in the series.
Stokes tried to send a message to Australia but they are took good to be rattled by something like that. It came across as a gimmick to me. Australia were very happy that Stokes inexplicably asked Root to leave the crease. If Head or Smith etc had been in that form, then they would have been looking to take the game away from England, not to declare.
It was a good decision, only if you take advantage of it - and they didn't
Let's face it, the rain saved them - another 20/30+mins of those humid cloudy and how many would the rampant Australians have taken?
Its strange having an Australia captain who i actually like a lot. What a player
An issue that doesn't get mentioned much is how England's aggression with the bat means the bowlers get very little rest at times.
Khawaja batted on every day of this test. That means England bowled on every day of a rain affected test. With a 36 and 40 year for your front line bowlers, this is a huge ask. And another reason why I think there needs to be far less chucking away of wickets.
5 days is a long time. Be aggressive but put away the reverse sweeps and hacks across the line.
Khawaja batted on every day of this test. That means England bowled on every day of a rain affected test. With a 36 and 40 year for your front line bowlers, this is a huge ask. And another reason why I think there needs to be far less chucking away of wickets.
5 days is a long time. Be aggressive but put away the reverse sweeps and hacks across the line.
DuuuncanHadaPigeon
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They did it with about 7 overs or so to spare. If we don't declare they don't have time to get the runs and we draw, Stokes went for the win and did what he thought necessary to do it. He will make mistakes along the way but that's part and parcel of it and I for one want to be on this ride. I'd rather lose trying to win than accept a draw, I know most will disagree but you aren't gonna change stokes mindset, just enjoy it while you can.
Hinchcliffe's Corner
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Test cricket needs this attitude, it's dying on its arse, it might hurt along the way but we might not have it in 10 years time if it doesn't adapt.
DuuuncanHadaPigeon
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Exactly it was a brilliant match, can't wait for the rest of the series we are very much in it.
sbbefc
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There's a lot of them out there. I was being pillored for it by my mates. I'm anti cricket apparently. It's almost cult like if you question any of it.
Cook described bazball as cricket but at a different tempo. Absolutely love that. But can't stand poor decision making.
Golden rule. You bat (ideally) until you're in a position where 75% of the time you win, 25% you draw and 0% you lose.
England should have won that in a more entertaining fashion than the gallant loss it became. Root was scoring for fun before the declaration. He was scoring for fun before he got stumped. It's frustrating and definitely feels like they threw it away.
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