Librarian
Player Valuation: £60m
Given any set of rules we have to make the best decisions for ourselves
Ultimately this turn of events is another nail in the PSR coffin
If they want to control costs and increase competition in football then wage caps, agent fee caps and distribution of income are the way forward, but we all know that that’s not the objective
Ultimately this turn of events is another nail in the PSR coffin
If they want to control costs and increase competition in football then wage caps, agent fee caps and distribution of income are the way forward, but we all know that that’s not the objective
Tony’s Carp
Player Valuation: £40m
Yeah there’s simply nothing that can or will be done as long as things are within a range of fair value and these deals easily are.
Any “clampdown” on deals like this would require a club vote and club owners are simply not going to vote to restrict their ability to freely negotiate transfers.
EFC_FRANCIS
Player Valuation: £35m
The problem is that the rules are there to ensure football clubs are ran properly and don't get themselves in the hole we found ourselves the past 2 years. Are Everton and Villa any more profitable and sustainable now they've swapped Tim and Dobbin? The rules say we're about 7 million better off each - in reality nothing has changed
Dymak
Player Valuation: £40m
The PL would prefer to avoid PSR breaches if they can. It saves them a lot of money, as they have to employ lawyers to make a case against their own clubs, which is nothing but a headache and costs them a fortune.
So they will have no problem with perfectly legitimate player trading, especially if it also saves them an absolute fortune in lawyer fees.
So they will have no problem with perfectly legitimate player trading, especially if it also saves them an absolute fortune in lawyer fees.
Lapeno77
Player Valuation: £30m
Anderson de Silva. Bit of an issue with a passport
Didn't realise kellyman was off to Chelsea. He is very highly rated to be fair. What fee has been mentioned?
£19m
OneTrueLegend
Player Valuation: £35m
I think it will be difficult to prove. Also Chelsea are trying to do it with Villa as well. Some would argue they actually did it last season, they sold Mount to Man Utd because of how well it worked for them with PSR, although they bought a replacement from Man City (Cole Palmer).
The premier league have already said that they can’t stop Chelsea selling hotels and training grounds to their owners to stop Chelsea breaching the PSR. I think it would be difficult for them to do it to us and Villa over this deal for Dobbin and Iroegbunam
City have not bent them, they have destroyed them - unpunished .....
Still think the point is valid regarding the interest on the stadium finances but acknowledge that was not the thrust of the original post.
It was a definite "anomaly" and was not treated in accordance with previous club stadium developments
However, that is as much the gross incompetence and downright uselessness of the ex Chairman and his CEO and the outgoing majority owner. They according to Premier League breached the August 2021 agreement. Which led to the attitude EFC faced.
We all know Bill Kenwright has a long history of his words not matching deeds
Martin Alvito
Player Valuation: £50m
There's a price to be paid for doing this. Clubs have less to spend in future years as the amortization bites, plus they commit to five years of wages if they want to amortize over five years. It's not free money, by any means.
In principle, clubs could engage in an unending cycle of nonsense trades at ever-increasing prices, and stay ahead of the game...until the league puts their foot down. Sooner or later, the league would argue that the transactions are obviously fraudulent because the players involved aren't paid wages comparable to those received by other players sold for similar fees. At that point, teams doing this heavily would be in a financial pickle for several years.
If two clubs want to do it to smooth out a speed bump here and there, it's not an issue. If it becomes a systemic problem, it will take care of itself in the end, and justice will be handed out. There's nothing to worry about.
The difference with Juve was that they were publicly listed and subject to securities laws with respect to inflating asset values.
In principle, clubs could engage in an unending cycle of nonsense trades at ever-increasing prices, and stay ahead of the game...until the league puts their foot down. Sooner or later, the league would argue that the transactions are obviously fraudulent because the players involved aren't paid wages comparable to those received by other players sold for similar fees. At that point, teams doing this heavily would be in a financial pickle for several years.
If two clubs want to do it to smooth out a speed bump here and there, it's not an issue. If it becomes a systemic problem, it will take care of itself in the end, and justice will be handed out. There's nothing to worry about.
The difference with Juve was that they were publicly listed and subject to securities laws with respect to inflating asset values.
