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The comparing Aston Villa to Everton thread

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Imo the whole 'we're the bigger club' stuff is a little bit Red##iteish. Not really arsed about any other clubs. Im dead proud to be a blue and dont need to justify my support by going on about what a big a club we are.
 

Well, of course you: "don't know how to respond" - It's what's known as a 'home truth' , you've patently demonstrated your penchant for 14y.o. boys, ducky. :bye:

Here y'are - just for you.

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/nowty

nowty (ˈnaʊtɪ
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Definitions
adjective
Word forms: nowtier, nowtiest
  1. (Northern England, dialect) bad-tempered
  2. Not commonly used by danny dyer, despite what some nonces think.
  3. Something 'grandiose' as opposed to something not quite as good e.g Everton being bigger AND better than villa, or 14y.o. villa fans being better than kopites, or Whistlin' Dixie being miles better than moomin in every way and definitely not being a sexual deviant.
Hope that clears things up ;)

I've flagged this up to the moderator's for calling me a nonce.

All I was doing was stopping you pick on a minor.
 

Big clubs win trophies. At the moment neither of us are big clubs because we have owners with no ambition other than to stay in the league. Sell to buy policies all round, academy products sold off and loan mercenaries brought in. Neither have been a 'big club' for ages. I guess maybe it boils down to fans who aren't that bothered about all of the above. Least Villa's had a moan, we shushed all our protestors because they were ruining our 'unique match day experience'. Whatever that is.
 
Interesting stuff from Colleymore after being released of his writing duties in the Aston Villa programme:

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snmi6a

"After 6 years of doing an official Aston Villa programme column, today I've been notified by the club that they no longer wish me to continue due to my support of Tim Sherwood and fierce criticism of the ownership and club structure.

The club felt is essence that it would be inappropriate for me to write positively in a column whilst being critical on air or in a newspaper.

The column I have written for 6 years was at no charge to Aston Villa, but the club kindly gave me 4 or 5 tickets a season for games. I've asked for two which the club kindly have given for the Swansea game.

I am firstly a broadcaster, and a broadcaster who treats every club in the country the same. So if ownership is letting fans down, as proven last night on perhaps the only football show in the country which actually addresses issues rather than ignore them or pretend they don't exist, we debate them and criticise or praise where necessary.

This has and always must be my objective as a broadcaster, to treat Aston Villa the same as any club. I do and I will.

On the watch of Mr Lerner, and laterly Tom Fox as Chief Executive, and Paul Faulkner before him, the club I have supported since childhood have become the laughing stock of the Premier League. This, Englands 4th most successful football club.

So do I pretend on sir everything is great? Or do I broadcast justifiable criticism alongside one of the best in the business, Mark Saggers, echoing the concerns of a huge fanbase, as they come to terms with a 6th year of complete and utter dross on the pitch, and ineptitude of the highest order off it?


I met Tom Fox in the summer and said to his face that I wanted to do anything, anything to help my club moving forward. Get on a plane, train, in a car, watch players, report back, anything to help my club.

A smile , a coffee and a patronising " we'll call you" cane and went. At the same time Aston Villa were employing a marketing man, that's a marketing man as Director of Football. And we wonder why we are in the mess we are in. Industry professionals ignored when offering help, a man who can put a glossy Arsenal pitch together made Director of Football at my club.

The line is drawn now for me. It took an embarrassed Rob Bishop, programme editor and friend for over 18 years to tell me over the phone that my column had ended "for now", but in reality for good.

I believe this treatment is symptomatic of how Villa fans generally are treated by the current owner , with disdain.

I will now join fan groups and individuals actively looking to other potential owners to come in swiftly and hasten change at Aston Villa Football Club.

Mr Lerner, Tom a Fox, the current Director of Football and technical staff are not fit for purpose. They all should go, now.

As for Tim Sherwood, he gets my unequivocal support and should get the same from every Villa fan. He really could have had no idea what mess he was coming into or some of the najor decisions that he would have no hand in. An incredibly tough job.

I'll walk into Villa Park soon with chest puffed out as a fan or broadcaster. It's my club and I was here before this current ownership, firstly in the Doug Ellis stand aged 6, then on the pitch aged 27, then in the broadcast booth aged 35. I'm going nowhere.

Our great club will be back, but only with new ownership. So please Mr Lerner, instead of petty sackings of columnists who tell the truth about our club, please sell up and go.

Stan Collymore."
 

So some morality from a dogger/wife beater.


Interesting stuff from Colleymore after being released of his writing duties in the Aston Villa programme:

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snmi6a

"After 6 years of doing an official Aston Villa programme column, today I've been notified by the club that they no longer wish me to continue due to my support of Tim Sherwood and fierce criticism of the ownership and club structure.

The club felt is essence that it would be inappropriate for me to write positively in a column whilst being critical on air or in a newspaper.

The column I have written for 6 years was at no charge to Aston Villa, but the club kindly gave me 4 or 5 tickets a season for games. I've asked for two which the club kindly have given for the Swansea game.

I am firstly a broadcaster, and a broadcaster who treats every club in the country the same. So if ownership is letting fans down, as proven last night on perhaps the only football show in the country which actually addresses issues rather than ignore them or pretend they don't exist, we debate them and criticise or praise where necessary.

This has and always must be my objective as a broadcaster, to treat Aston Villa the same as any club. I do and I will.

On the watch of Mr Lerner, and laterly Tom Fox as Chief Executive, and Paul Faulkner before him, the club I have supported since childhood have become the laughing stock of the Premier League. This, Englands 4th most successful football club.

So do I pretend on sir everything is great? Or do I broadcast justifiable criticism alongside one of the best in the business, Mark Saggers, echoing the concerns of a huge fanbase, as they come to terms with a 6th year of complete and utter dross on the pitch, and ineptitude of the highest order off it?


I met Tom Fox in the summer and said to his face that I wanted to do anything, anything to help my club moving forward. Get on a plane, train, in a car, watch players, report back, anything to help my club.

A smile , a coffee and a patronising " we'll call you" cane and went. At the same time Aston Villa were employing a marketing man, that's a marketing man as Director of Football. And we wonder why we are in the mess we are in. Industry professionals ignored when offering help, a man who can put a glossy Arsenal pitch together made Director of Football at my club.

The line is drawn now for me. It took an embarrassed Rob Bishop, programme editor and friend for over 18 years to tell me over the phone that my column had ended "for now", but in reality for good.

I believe this treatment is symptomatic of how Villa fans generally are treated by the current owner , with disdain.

I will now join fan groups and individuals actively looking to other potential owners to come in swiftly and hasten change at Aston Villa Football Club.

Mr Lerner, Tom a Fox, the current Director of Football and technical staff are not fit for purpose. They all should go, now.

As for Tim Sherwood, he gets my unequivocal support and should get the same from every Villa fan. He really could have had no idea what mess he was coming into or some of the najor decisions that he would have no hand in. An incredibly tough job.

I'll walk into Villa Park soon with chest puffed out as a fan or broadcaster. It's my club and I was here before this current ownership, firstly in the Doug Ellis stand aged 6, then on the pitch aged 27, then in the broadcast booth aged 35. I'm going nowhere.

Our great club will be back, but only with new ownership. So please Mr Lerner, instead of petty sackings of columnists who tell the truth about our club, please sell up and go.

Stan Collymore."
 
Interesting stuff from Colleymore after being released of his writing duties in the Aston Villa programme:

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snmi6a

"After 6 years of doing an official Aston Villa programme column, today I've been notified by the club that they no longer wish me to continue due to my support of Tim Sherwood and fierce criticism of the ownership and club structure.

The club felt is essence that it would be inappropriate for me to write positively in a column whilst being critical on air or in a newspaper.

The column I have written for 6 years was at no charge to Aston Villa, but the club kindly gave me 4 or 5 tickets a season for games. I've asked for two which the club kindly have given for the Swansea game.

I am firstly a broadcaster, and a broadcaster who treats every club in the country the same. So if ownership is letting fans down, as proven last night on perhaps the only football show in the country which actually addresses issues rather than ignore them or pretend they don't exist, we debate them and criticise or praise where necessary.

This has and always must be my objective as a broadcaster, to treat Aston Villa the same as any club. I do and I will.

On the watch of Mr Lerner, and laterly Tom Fox as Chief Executive, and Paul Faulkner before him, the club I have supported since childhood have become the laughing stock of the Premier League. This, Englands 4th most successful football club.

So do I pretend on sir everything is great? Or do I broadcast justifiable criticism alongside one of the best in the business, Mark Saggers, echoing the concerns of a huge fanbase, as they come to terms with a 6th year of complete and utter dross on the pitch, and ineptitude of the highest order off it?


I met Tom Fox in the summer and said to his face that I wanted to do anything, anything to help my club moving forward. Get on a plane, train, in a car, watch players, report back, anything to help my club.

A smile , a coffee and a patronising " we'll call you" cane and went. At the same time Aston Villa were employing a marketing man, that's a marketing man as Director of Football. And we wonder why we are in the mess we are in. Industry professionals ignored when offering help, a man who can put a glossy Arsenal pitch together made Director of Football at my club.

The line is drawn now for me. It took an embarrassed Rob Bishop, programme editor and friend for over 18 years to tell me over the phone that my column had ended "for now", but in reality for good.

I believe this treatment is symptomatic of how Villa fans generally are treated by the current owner , with disdain.

I will now join fan groups and individuals actively looking to other potential owners to come in swiftly and hasten change at Aston Villa Football Club.

Mr Lerner, Tom a Fox, the current Director of Football and technical staff are not fit for purpose. They all should go, now.

As for Tim Sherwood, he gets my unequivocal support and should get the same from every Villa fan. He really could have had no idea what mess he was coming into or some of the najor decisions that he would have no hand in. An incredibly tough job.

I'll walk into Villa Park soon with chest puffed out as a fan or broadcaster. It's my club and I was here before this current ownership, firstly in the Doug Ellis stand aged 6, then on the pitch aged 27, then in the broadcast booth aged 35. I'm going nowhere.

Our great club will be back, but only with new ownership. So please Mr Lerner, instead of petty sackings of columnists who tell the truth about our club, please sell up and go.

Stan Collymore."

And people still call Collymore a Kopite?

He's Villa all the way

I pretty much agreed with all of that as well. A real shame to see a club with such heritage being run into the ground

@Allezfan won't be happy that someone is having a go at Randy Lerner though. He's his chief defender
 

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