The David Moyes debate

[Brennan]

I'm not saying he's not doing a decent job. If not a pos. net spend, he has had money to spend though and he hasn't spent it that well. Losing N'Zogbia wasn't the end of the world for them and he had opportunity to put it right. Moyes has done it time and time again. Buy someone cheap, sell them for big bucks and replace them with a fraction of that fee and turn them into a top class player thus repeating the cycle. e.g. Lescott to Heitinga. Moyes is doing this and is only treading water with us. You know Martinez won't have the success Moyes has had in the transfer market so the only way is down.

I know Martinez won't have the success in the transfer market AT WIGAN. At Everton would be a completely different story.

Moyes doesn't go all over the world watching these transfers train every day, he relies on scouts just like many other managers. Common sense would tell you that Wigan's scouting network isn't as good as Everton's is, so judging Martinez in that way isn't really fair.

Having said that, Victor Moses, Gary Caldwell and Di Santo have all been great transfers for a total cost of £5m. He's no dummy when it comes to transfer spending.

 

[davek]

Just go ginger bollix...look at the trouble you're causing on here!

 

[kenada_blue]

The hells that FFS?

 

[Brennan]

I wouldn't say it's completely irrelevant.

It shows your judgement on football matters takes alot to be desired lad.

Remember:

BARKLEY'S EXPLODING KNEES (Wilshire has been out for the entire season; too much football too soon)

At least we're not Villa! (Who lost £52million last season on the books; are close to relegation).

I also remember when you said we could play like Barcelona, and when you said we'd do something big in the Summer of 2011. 2 loan deals and losing three players is a strange definition of 'big' really.

 

[Goat]

The hells that FFS?

 

[Brennan]

The hells that FFS?

Turtle.

 

[Matt Damon]

I also remember when you said we could play like Barcelona, and when you said we'd do something big in the Summer of 2011. 2 loan deals and losing three players is a strange definition of 'big' really.

That was yesterday lad.

The other stuff you're talking out of your arse about. As per usual.

http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/t...months-ago-when-certain-posters-were-laughing

That says it all. Before you go on about Martinez yet again. Swansea are now 8 points behind us....

 

[Del]

I also remember when you said we could play like Barcelona, and when you said we'd do something big in the Summer of 2011. 2 loan deals and losing three players is a strange definition of 'big' really.

He also said that we would defo be bought out last summer

Still waiting for that one to come off

 

[Brennan]

Just go ginger bollix...look at the trouble you're causing on here!

*look at the trouble the Kopite is causing here

It was a perfectly fine discussion until Damon came in here with his utter bulls**t.

 

[Brennan]

He also said that we would defo be bought out last summer

Still waiting for that one to come off

He must have been getting confused with his true club Liverpool mate, after their takeover.

 

[kenada_blue]

Turtle.

Ah, makes sense now.




What a looker

 

[Kurt.]

I know Martinez won't have the success in the transfer market AT WIGAN. At Everton would be a completely different story.

Moyes doesn't go all over the world watching these transfers train every day, he relies on scouts just like many other managers. Common sense would tell you that Wigan's scouting network isn't as good as Everton's is, so judging Martinez in that way isn't really fair.

Having said that, Victor Moses, Gary Caldwell and Di Santo have all been great transfers for a total cost of £5m. He's no dummy when it comes to transfer spending.

Dario Gradi had a fantastic scouting team at crewe ........... just saying.

 

[Goat]

Just go ginger bollix...look at the trouble you're causing on here!

Get out of here Dave.

FFS

 

[Woolly Blue]

Dear Damon,

Please explain how saying well done to David Moyes for some good team performances has any effect on my opinion of Martinez as a manager.

Oh wait, it has zero to do with anything. Hope you've got your travel down to Wembley sorted for the 5th. YNWA ?

Woah .... easy ladz
Basically, until ( unless ? ) the finances are sorted out then we have two choices

1. Stick with Moyes, or a Moyes lookalike, and finish as high up the league as possible with the squad we have, but put with the fact that a dour manager is unlikely to win anything because he's playing the % game

OR

2. Go for a manager with more of a flair approach who will lose games in the league, finish at a lower position, never have a chance of qualifying for the Europa League via position but MIGHT have a better chance of winning a cup

So, basically, do you want the chance of Silverware ( without much of a financial reward ) or would you rather go for the highest possble league position and a more secure future.

... discuss, rationally ... if the egos in here are able to do so.

btw, in reality, there is no Option (3). Should I start a Graham Poll ?

*steps back and takes a drink.

 

[Brennan]

Woah .... easy ladz
Basically, until ( unless ? ) the finances are sorted out then we have two choices

1. Stick with Moyes, or a Moyes lookalike, and finish as high up the league as possible with the squad we have, but put with the fact that a dour manager is unlikely to win anything because he's playing the % game

OR

2. Go for a manager with more of a flair approach who will lose games in the league, finish at a lower position, never have a chance of qualifying for the Europa League via position but MIGHT have a better chance of winning a cup

So, basically, do you want the chance of Silverware ( without much of a financial reward ) or would you rather go for the highest possble league position and a more secure future.

... discuss, rationally ... if the egos in here are able to do so.

btw, in reality, there is no Option (3). Should I start a Graham Poill ?

*steps back and takes a drink.

Mate, this thread is lost now, Damon has ruined yet another one.