It will be like a breath of fresh air when he finally goes.(although i think whoever comes in will have a massive job to fix the damage he has done in terms of our football style at all ages). i hope he goes sooner rather than later. if Everton come out and say he will be leaving after the Newcastle game i will re new straight away. at this moment in time i don't even want to go to the Fulham or Newcastle game.
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Time to go Davey - thanks for the memories (scratches head)....we need to re-build around youth and a new system (top to bottom) from Youth team to 1st team we need to adopt the same policies, the same styles, and the same approach to every game, develop our our own style, and simply say bollox to everyone (including us supporters). Call it a year zero approach.
Start playing football again, learn to enjoy the game...Moysey is simply too tactical and in basic terms he thinks about the game too much. Round is simply his mouthpiece, a Moyes wannabe, he offers us nothing, - no diversity from the Moyes percentage style of football, and no adaptability.
Start playing football again, learn to enjoy the game...Moysey is simply too tactical and in basic terms he thinks about the game too much. Round is simply his mouthpiece, a Moyes wannabe, he offers us nothing, - no diversity from the Moyes percentage style of football, and no adaptability.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2012/04/16/everton-fc-manager-david-moyes-says-defining-moments-went-against-us-at-wembley-100252-30766073/2/
Oh Davey, Davey - you create your own defining moments - you don't wait for them to creep up on you. We should have come out 2nd half and upped our work-rate 200%. We should have matched them all over the park and won our individual battles. Then their spirit would have been broken, We didn't - we **** it.
Go now Moyes and take your pet gibbon Round with yer
Oh Davey, Davey - you create your own defining moments - you don't wait for them to creep up on you. We should have come out 2nd half and upped our work-rate 200%. We should have matched them all over the park and won our individual battles. Then their spirit would have been broken, We didn't - we **** it.
Go now Moyes and take your pet gibbon Round with yer
efcforever
Player Valuation: £10m
Moyes is to blame for that shower of sh!t in the 2nd half. In the big game when it really mattered he had no clue what to do. I don't beleive will ever win a trophy under Moyes.
kenada_blue
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If he shows a change of philosophy and approach for next season, then ill be less critical and more encouraged.
But if hes still playing and relying on your Nevilles amd cahills in pre season, we should think about a change.
The way we play this season was evident in pre season, so well see then if we are going forward or staying put
But if hes still playing and relying on your Nevilles amd cahills in pre season, we should think about a change.
The way we play this season was evident in pre season, so well see then if we are going forward or staying put
He's to scared to deviate from 'what works' and he knows Cahill, Neville, Jags, Osman, Hibbert will all follow orders and do as the gaffer says. We'll line up 4-4-1-1 as per usual.
If I where Moyes then I'd clear the squad out, deadwood goes along with maybe Jags and Rodwell to try and generate some cash and reinvest and bleed youth; the team is stagnent and needs freshening up
If I where Moyes then I'd clear the squad out, deadwood goes along with maybe Jags and Rodwell to try and generate some cash and reinvest and bleed youth; the team is stagnent and needs freshening up
Even more so than the team.
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I have no complaint with the players if they aren't good enough - if God hasn't put the talent in there, then there's not much the player can do about it. The things I do demand though are the physical effort to burst yourself in the cause, mental effort to concentrate all the time and not do anything stupid, the physical courage to put your feet, head (and occasionally wedding tackle) in harm's way, and the mental courage to play your game even when the pressure is on. The Everton team has the physical and mental effort and physical courage in abundance, but we're always lacking in the mental courage department when it comes to the crunch.
In most big games, we fail to play at all, and if we should happen to go a goal up, then it's all back to our penalty area and pray to God that we can hold out somehow. Saturday was no different - pressing them hard early on and playing a few passes when we won the ball off them, we went a deserved goal up. Then, we immediately ceased to play. We weren't unlucky, cheated by the ref, or were even the less talented team - we just CHOSE not to play, but drop deep, give them possession and territory and just hope they didn't score.
Clearly, in one sense this is the players' fault - and I was particularly disgusted with Baines for not having the backbone to cross the half way line for almost the entire game. On the other hand, you have to think that the manager is consistently failing to give them the confidence to play their natural game in pressure situations, and Moyes' blaming individual mistakes for Saturday, rather than our collective failure to push on and score a second or at least make the RS spend a lot of time defending, supports the view that he just can't see the problem.
Now I've always thought of Moyes as a very good manager, and I still do, but I also think he has a fatal flaw in his basic makeup. Wenger is a good manager, but you always think he'll lose vital games by choosing play a youngster he's coached himself or a skilful defender over one who can actually defend properly. Even if he had Manchester City's millions, he'd probably not win the league because of this fatal flaw. So with David Moyes. Even if he was given the entire Barcelona squad, he'd still send them out for a big game believing that they were lucky to be there, and needed to defend like tigers and avoid mistakes rather than impose themselves on the opposition.
What do we do - keep Moyes because he's good at getting a basic level of achievement year-on-year, or take a chance on somebody who might do better on the big occasion, but might also be much worse? I dunno.
In most big games, we fail to play at all, and if we should happen to go a goal up, then it's all back to our penalty area and pray to God that we can hold out somehow. Saturday was no different - pressing them hard early on and playing a few passes when we won the ball off them, we went a deserved goal up. Then, we immediately ceased to play. We weren't unlucky, cheated by the ref, or were even the less talented team - we just CHOSE not to play, but drop deep, give them possession and territory and just hope they didn't score.
Clearly, in one sense this is the players' fault - and I was particularly disgusted with Baines for not having the backbone to cross the half way line for almost the entire game. On the other hand, you have to think that the manager is consistently failing to give them the confidence to play their natural game in pressure situations, and Moyes' blaming individual mistakes for Saturday, rather than our collective failure to push on and score a second or at least make the RS spend a lot of time defending, supports the view that he just can't see the problem.
Now I've always thought of Moyes as a very good manager, and I still do, but I also think he has a fatal flaw in his basic makeup. Wenger is a good manager, but you always think he'll lose vital games by choosing play a youngster he's coached himself or a skilful defender over one who can actually defend properly. Even if he had Manchester City's millions, he'd probably not win the league because of this fatal flaw. So with David Moyes. Even if he was given the entire Barcelona squad, he'd still send them out for a big game believing that they were lucky to be there, and needed to defend like tigers and avoid mistakes rather than impose themselves on the opposition.
What do we do - keep Moyes because he's good at getting a basic level of achievement year-on-year, or take a chance on somebody who might do better on the big occasion, but might also be much worse? I dunno.
Ethann11
Player Valuation: £225k
So after the loss to our Merseyside rivals a lot has been said on the forum regarding whether Moyes is up to the job. I can't say that I wasn't expecting this as after the game I could of quite easily called for him to lose his job, but on further inspection I've decided not to.
This is because of what he's done at the club in the time he has been here.
- Fantastic job on ensuring that we stay in the league.
- Fantastic job working with Bill Kenwright on ensuring that the club is in a 'secure' financial position.
- Looking over the development of Finch Farm.
- Signing players such as –
Seamus Coleman - £150,000 from Silgo Rovers
Tim Cahill - £1,500,000 from Millwall
Mikel Arteta - £2,000,000 from Real Sociedad
Maroune Fellaini - £15,500,000 from Standard Leige
Phil Neville - £3,500,000 from Manchester United
Nigel Martyn - £250,000 from Leeds United
Leighton Baines - £6,000,000 from Wigan Athletic
Steven Pienaar - £2,000,000 from Borussia Dortmund
Tim Howard - £3,000,000 from Manchester United
Phil Jagielka - £4,000,000 from Sheffield United
Joleon Lescott - £2,000,000 from Wolverhampton Wanderers
and many more
- Building about 3 new teams in 10 years.
- Keeping competitive.
- Consecutive top 8 finishes.
- Re-branding of the club.
- 4th placed finish in 2005.
- FA Cup Finalists in 2009.
- Brought stability to a club that was in termoil.
So after that long list, you cant really say he's gash?
It's too easy to go out and spend loads of money and have lots of success in a short period of time.
But we're looking at a long-term strategy here which will hopefully lead to much prolounged success in the future.
Keep the hope.
Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.
You got it spot on, he is an amazing manager and he is going to get us silverware in the next 5 years I'm confident of it! Keep the faith!
I will take some of that bet.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Cracking post that mate. Bottom two paras especially.
Personally, I can only hope now that his blaming of players and zero self-criticism + the fact he hasn't signed a new contract yet is a sign that he's clearing the decks and about to go elsewhere (or at least signallung he wants to go elsewhere).
I really hope he does now. I still cant bring myself to the level of hostility toward Moyes that many others have (and have had for a long time), but he's burnt his bridges with a good few people of late. That SF no-show was the last straw for me. I want him gone, and I want him gone ASAP.
I have heard that Everton are going to open contract talks with him at the end of the season. Unfotunately for me this will mean my last game at goodison will be newcastle. I can't be arsed with all the rushing about match days to get there and be all stressed out because of his sh1t team selection and lower league tactics.
zed
Player Valuation: £25m
was that ditherer blaming coleman ffs- way to go moyles - hang out seamus to dry when we had the chance to plaster them in the previous 86 minutes. shiithouse thing to do to a young lad, heres news for you moyes, EVERTONIANS ARE NOT BLAMING COLEMAN....................... ginger should look at himself first
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