The EU deal

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Yes, that is the situation, unfortunately. It is very difficult to get many British applicants for that type of job. Also, the number of these jobs has increased dramatically in the past few years. Look at towns like Wisbech and Peterborough. They are moving towards having the majority of their populations being non-British. Both are heavily dependent upon food manufacturing.

Exactly - so get rid of all the Albanians and hey presto old Farmer Palmer will have no-one left to pick his spuds. The hourly rate will soon rise and entice the native Brits back into the fields....

Hussah!

 

[SNova]

If i though the Eu protected workers rights i would be more inclined to vote to stay in,can see it myself since i have been in work.

Just look at how they treated Greece, it was sickening.

 

[davmaher]

Exactly - so get rid of all the Albanians and hey presto old Farmer Palmer will have no-one left to pick his spuds. The hourly rate will soon rise and entice the native Brits back into the fields....

Hussah!

That's OK if people don't mind the cost of their food going up. I'm not sure about the levels of immigrant labour in farming. It's the food manufacturing sector I know more about.

 

[dandydan]

Regarding the EU and workers rights, when I worked alongside poles, mostly good lads btw they were getting ripped off by their agency charging them £50 a week for digs and the same again for transport while getting minimum wage.

 

[Deggo]

No, it's driven by the supermarkets who want prices at a minimum. To achieve this the industry pays the majority of the workers minimum wage or just above. Not many British people want this type of work and so the jobs go to immigrants.

Nothing to do with recruitment agencies targeting the countries of their origin then?

Please don't tell me British workers don't want these jobs,EU labour are more flexible with regard to wages and hours due to their lack of ties or commitments,modern day slaves for me

 

[Blues Harp]

To have a sweaty melt like Cameron negaotiating on behalf of this country is ridiculous. Since the election him and his upstarts have shown they have only an interest in their class, the minority. Everybody else has to pay the price, so why should he being negotiating on anything other than his ilk's own vested interests.

The entire thing is a staged show of posturing, willy waving and ego massaging.

Get shut of the entire lot. As a trading block I am wholeheartedly for it, everything else is corporatist beaureaucratic pants that has become a fascist 'empire'.

This ....

 

[Jxg]

Yes, that is the situation, unfortunately. It is very difficult to get many British applicants for that type of job. Also, the number of these jobs has increased dramatically in the past few years. Look at towns like Wisbech and Peterborough. They are moving towards having the majority of their populations being non-British. Both are heavily dependent upon food manufacturing.

That is not the situation. At all. Are you implying that British people deem themselves above certain jobs? That's a nasty stereotype you're perpetuating. A cousin of mine recently applied for a minimum wage job at a shop, later being informed that there were over fifty applicants. Fifty. With such a high demand for jobs, why do we need so much unskilled labour from other countries?

The fact that Wisbech and Peterborough are edging towards majority non-British populations is not a good thing and only reinforces my point.

 

[davmaher]

Regarding the EU and workers rights, when I worked alongside poles, mostly good lads btw they were getting ripped off by their agency charging them £50 a week for digs and the same again for transport while getting minimum wage.

I've seen exactly the same. Stick 8 of them in a 3 bed house, give them a cheapo car to use and take 5 times the cost out of their wages. I agree with you on the work ethic of Poles and other Eastern Europeans as well.

 

[Deggo]

Always been the way Deggo, when i was a kid aged about 5 in the holidays ,a wagon used to pick everybody up from are tenements, mostly woman and kids and ship us off to farms to pick spuds carrots ect you only got paid for what you did

Where are you from mate?

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Goldman Sachs

Root cause of many of the world's evils....

 

[davmaher]

Nothing to do with recruitment agencies targeting the countries of their origin then?

Please don't tell me British workers don't want these jobs,EU labour are more flexible with regard to wages and hours due to their lack of ties or commitments,modern day slaves for me

Recruitment agencies do target their countries of origin. They have been doing that for at least 10 years. British workers don't, in the main, want these jobs. They are low pay, long hours and gruelling, boring work. If you can get similar pay in a McDonald's then that is a much better choice.

 

[edge]

Where are you from mate?

Kirkdale mate,farms were owned by a family silcotts think,just on from Litherland

 

[Tubey]

It'd be insane to leave it on practical grounds, but I hope we do, so that David Cameron goes down in history as the man who destroyed Britain to appease a bunch of right-wing nutters in his own party for selfish reasons ahead of one election. He deserves that accolade very much.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

I agree with you on the work ethic of Poles and other Eastern Europeans as well.

I simply abhor this nonsensical fallacy that they're all hard grafters, because they have the same lazy gets we do. I worked in Jaguar and the polish lads there did their graft and were ultra polite. Couldn't say that of the lorry drivers from all over eastern Europe, though.

In Quinn glass a load of the poles there were the most dilatory, bone-idle bleeders I've ever seen. One just used to go from one water dispenser to the next talking to anyone who was there.

 

[davmaher]

That is not the situation. At all. Are you implying that British people deem themselves above certain jobs? That's a nasty stereotype you're perpetuating. A cousin of mine recently applied for a minimum wage job at a shop, later being informed that there were over fifty applicants. Fifty. With such a high demand for jobs, why do we need so much unskilled labour from other countries?

The fact that Wisbech and Peterborough are edging towards majority non-British populations is not a good thing and only reinforces my point.

I'm not saying it is a good thing. But it is a fact. And it is the situation. Again, I'm not saying this is a good thing. I don't know where your cousin lives, but if he moved to Wisbech he could get a minimum wage job within days.