The EU deal

[edge]

I thought that, but the remain group still haven't made a compelling case to do so. Scare stories are actually driving voters into the leave camp and slowly but surely leave is gaining momentum......

talking to somebody about the scare stories yesterday they were undecided up till that point but they were fed up with Cameron and his constant immature bluster so were voting out to give him a bloody nose, suspect as we go on more may feel the same way.

 

[Blue 1]

talking to somebody about the scare stories yesterday they were undecided up till that point but they were fed up with Cameron and his constant immature bluster so were voting out to give him a bloody nose, suspect as we go on more may feel the same way.

I got to admit it'd be tempting if not for what's potentially going to usurp him. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

talking to somebody about the scare stories yesterday they were undecided up till that point but they were fed up with Cameron and his constant immature bluster so were voting out to give him a bloody nose, suspect as we go on more may feel the same way.

He's toast whatever happens, I reckon.

 

[peteblue]

He's toast whatever happens, I reckon.

I think so as well....

 

[Pootsy]

Because that's the rules..

Article 50 – the only established legal way to leave the EU. Once triggered, there is no turning back, and it will exclude the UK from key decisions as well as the final vote. It leaves the EU in charge of the timetable during two years of negotiations, following which the UK could easily be presented with a ‘take it or leave it’ deal. UK lawyers helped draw up the agreement.

As for punishing the UK, that's simply a backwards way of looking at things. If Brexit opens up opportunities for others in the EU, as a member of the EU, paying their way, they will have every right to veto any deals if they aren't in their country's best interests. Trade between EU members will always come 1st. It's not about getting one over on the Brits, or tactics, or anything underhand, it's about being part of a Union. Its what we've done so well out of since joining.

So you think the EU members (Germany/Italy/Spain/France) are going to to not want to export their cars/wine/food to us? Likewise do you not think Minis/Cheese/Beers will not be desired by them?

I think what we will see is the Beurocrats suddenly realising that the Multi Nationals are the ones pulling their strings.

 

[Yid4life]

https://twitter.com/keepcalm_change

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

I think what we will see is the Burocrats suddenly realising that the Multi Nationals are the ones pulling their strings.

I think the burocrats already know that, mate...That's why they're negotiating TTIP behind closed doors.

If things carry on the way they're going, 'Omni Consumer Products' (From Robocop) or 'Momcorp' (Futurama) won't be the stuff of fiction.

 

[Pootsy]

I think the burocrats already know that, mate...That's why they're negotiating TTIP behind closed doors.

If things carry on the way they're going, 'Omni Consumer Products' (From Robocop) or 'Momcorp' (Futurama) won't be the stuff of fiction.

Look at most products these days. Parts sharing etc. There are already a multitude of products with different brand labels on them that are effectively made from the same recipe. China is jumping on the 'copy it' bandwagon.

At least outside the EU we can make our own trade deals and decide where we buy from instead of the products we want or the places we want to sell to being not allowed or heavily taxed.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Look at most products these days. Parts sharing etc. There are already a multitude of products with different brand labels on them that are effectively made from the same recipe. China is jumping on the 'copy it' bandwagon.

At least outside the EU we can make our own trade deals and decide where we buy from instead of the products we want or the places we want to sell to being not allowed or heavily taxed.

Solar panels...I'm led to believe the UK stopped giving out grants for them because they involved getting the panels from the Chinese - until the EU out a whacking great tariff on them.

How very 'Green' of them...

 

[Pootsy]

Odd that somewhere that charges us carbon taxes also charges green taxes.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Odd that somewhere that charges us carbon taxes also charges green taxes.

That's the EU for ya...

 

[Pootsy]

 

[edge]

I got to admit it'd be tempting if not for what's potentially going to usurp him. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Who do you think it would be?

 

[Pootsy]

Who do you think it would be?

Gove?

 

[Blue 1]

Who do you think it would be?

Boris the [Poor language removed], most likely.

With prominent cabinet positions for the likes of Gove, Patel and IDS.

/shudders