The EU deal

[SpurtingLesbian]

David Cameron, George Osborne and Tony Blair want in. Corbyn wants out but his boss won't let him say so and Rupert Murdoch is on the fence.

David Cameron, George Osborne and Tony Blair want in because the Banks/Industry/Commerce need to be in or else we are screwed as a Country.
Corbyn wants in because it would be suicide to let the Tories abolish our Human/Workers Rights then let them make their own up to suit their ideology.
Murdoch desperately wants out because Europe obstructs him and he has little power in Brussels.

 

[SpurtingLesbian]

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I'm still undecided, and I thought this new document released by the government may help me come to a decision, no chance of that, because it doesn't tell me anything concrete, it's all about this 'could' happen, this 'might' happen, this 'may' happen. It just reads like more of this scaremongering that both the in and out campaigns keep rolling out, starting to really piss me off now.

 

[Jxg]

Come one mate.

The only reason you want the Royal Family gone is because of 'muh feelings'.

The Royals bring in more net than they cost. Europe does not.

 

[SpurtingLesbian]

The Royals bring in more net than they cost. Europe does not.

Really?
would love to you justify this one considering how much trade we do with Europe and how badly it would be damaged if we left. (businesses leaving, import taxes, no free movement etc)

What do the Royals do apart from get married/have kids when the Government needs an expensive diversion, facilitate highly dubious weapon deals to various dictators all over the world which are then sold on to ISIS, pay sod all tax, live at our expense... Bring in a bit of Tourism to the Centre of London to see a House they don't live in?
WOW.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

What do the Royals do apart from get married/have kids when the Government needs an expensive diversion, facilitate highly dubious weapon deals to various dictators all over the world which are then sold on to ISIS... Bring in a bit of Tourism to the Centre of London to see a House they don't live in?

Bump off their in-laws? Make acquaintance with pederasts? Claim all sorts of subsidies from the EU? Get privileged market information from Govt. briefings? etc etc etc...

God save the queen....Must be dead hard graft y'know...All that travelling about in state locomotives, bentleys & jet planes, in order to open a foodbank. And let's not forget she started paying tax at the grand old age of 67 - the age when most people who've actually done a day's graft - retire

 

[Bruce Wayne]

What do the Royals do...

Well there's the aquaduct...

 

[SNova]

I'm still undecided, and I thought this new document released by the government may help me come to a decision, no chance of that, because it doesn't tell me anything concrete, it's all about this 'could' happen, this 'might' happen, this 'may' happen. It just reads like more of this scaremongering that both the in and out campaigns keep rolling out, starting to really piss me off now.

Project fear will be in full force throughout the campaign. In the end you have to vote on gut feeling

Either you believe in an independent Britain and vote to leave or you believe in a United States of Europe and vote to remain.

 

[dandydan]

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GIVE ARE TROOPS FOOTBALLERS WAGES!!!​

 

[SpurtingLesbian]

Project fear will be in full force throughout the campaign. In the end you have to vote on gut feeling

Either you believe in an independent Britain and vote to leave or you believe in a United States of Europe and vote to remain.

It's a clear vote between Project Fear and Project Fear + National Front then......

Great

 

[SpurtingLesbian]

GIVE ARE TROOPS FOOTBALLERS WAGES!!!​

You back on the DMT again Gideon?

or have you forgotten you've already given all the public money to your friends?​

 

[Jxg]

Really?
would love to you justify this one considering how much trade we do with Europe and how badly it would be damaged if we left. (businesses leaving, import taxes, no free movement etc)

What do the Royals do apart from get married/have kids when the Government needs an expensive diversion, facilitate highly dubious weapon deals to various dictators all over the world which are then sold on to ISIS, pay sod all tax, live at our expense... Bring in a bit of Tourism to the Centre of London to see a House they don't live in?
WOW.

You're just putting forward hypothetical situations on Europe.

Simple fact of the matter is that we put far more in than we get out. We get unskilled workers immigrating to the country that we don't need in exchange for turning away skilled workers that we could use from countries outside the EU. We pay more money into the EU than we get returned to us. We get laws we don't want. We might see a small decrease in European trading if we left but that would be more than compensated for by the large increase in global trade, which is restricted by yet more EU rules.

As for your second part, yes. Every penny contributed to the Royal Family is returned to us through tourism, and more. That doesn't even take into account how many jobs they are providing to the country by merely existing, or money made for the county in areas that aren't tourism. You can 'WOW' as much as you like, this is fact. Your seething, behind-the-times hatred for the Royal Family is blinding you from a true fact.

 

[SpurtingLesbian]

Simple fact of the matter is that we put far more in than we get out. We get unskilled workers immigrating to the country that we don't need in exchange for turning away skilled workers that we could use from countries outside the EU. We pay more money into the EU than we get returned to us. We get laws we don't want. We might see a small decrease in European trading if we left but that would be more than compensated for by the large increase in global trade, which is restricted by yet more EU rules.

And you actually believe that?

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

As for your second part, yes. Every penny contributed to the Royal Family is returned to us through tourism, and more. That doesn't even take into account how many jobs they are providing to the country by merely existing, or money made for the county in areas that aren't tourism. You can 'WOW' as much as you like, this is fact. Your seething, behind-the-times hatred for the Royal Family is blinding you from a true fact.

The royals cost - yes, COST everyone around 58p per annum. Regardless of the amount, they COST.

 

[Efcjake]

As a Canadian ex-pat I don't know what to make of this but I do know this: No matter what anyone will have you all believe not even the economists can predict the litany of ways leaving the EU will begin to affect the everyday life of the average Brit. Nobody out there is going to be able to definitively say one way or the other that option A means this moving forward and option B means that. There are far too many moving parts involved for you to begin modelling and predicting how it will affect things. The issue is now a national referendum and that is scary. You have the entire country voting on an issue the majority likely does not understand and where even the experts are unsure of the exact extent this will change the country. Scary stuff.