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And regardless of the COST, they RETURN GREATER to the country. RETURN GREATER.

No they don't. What is your major malfunction? The word COST implies just that....COST. They pay zilch for their housing; in fact they're PAID enormous sums annually to live the life of riley. They pay sweet FA for their global travel, and for maintenance of their vast estates (Again, they receive massive subsidies for these, too) & state chariots. It costs them bugger all for the vast amounts of security the enjoy.

And all that venison & pheasant isn't put on their bill y'know......Need I go on? Well I'm going to anyway.

Next you'll be telling us all these tourists come especially to see liz & the tribe.....Is that where these mythical returns come from? Or maybe it's all the business they draw in, is it?

Is it shabbite. Nobody does business with the UK simply because it's the queen ffs. Nobody. Think for one minute that all the so-called business she allegedly brings in would disappear along with the lizards (If only!)

Not on your nelson, old bean.

They're parasites. Unelected head of state parasites that cost more than any elected head of state would. The duchies of Lancaster & Cornwall belong to us - The nation - yet them maggots (lizard & big ears) collect the lot on them.

That family cost us £330m a year. Meanwhile kids are going to school hungry, the homeless are relying on foodbanks; and OAP's have to choose between heating & eating - and they paid taxes all their working lives (A lot of them at 60% and over).

They didn't have the choice to volunteer to pay at 67. And they brought up their own kids - who themselves went out & did an honest day's graft.

So kindly take your assertion that them parasites are a boon to this country and it's business, and ram it.
 
No they don't. What is your major malfunction? The word COST implies just that....COST. They pay zilch for their housing; in fact they're PAID enormous sums annually to live the life of riley. They pay sweet FA for their global travel, and for maintenance of their vast estates (Again, they receive massive subsidies for these, too) & state chariots. It costs them bugger all for the vast amounts of security the enjoy.

And all that venison & pheasant isn't put on their bill y'know......Need I go on? Well I'm going to anyway.

Next you'll be telling us all these tourists come especially to see liz & the tribe.....Is that where these mythical returns come from? Or maybe it's all the business they draw in, is it?

Is it shabbite. Nobody does business with the UK simply because it's the queen ffs. Nobody. Think for one minute that all the so-called business she allegedly brings in would disappear along with the lizards (If only!)

Not on your nelson, old bean.

They're parasites. Unelected head of state parasites that cost more than any elected head of state would. The duchies of Lancaster & Cornwall belong to us - The nation - yet them maggots (lizard & big ears) collect the lot on them.

That family cost us £330m a year. Meanwhile kids are going to school hungry, the homeless are relying on foodbanks; and OAP's have to choose between heating & eating - and they paid taxes all their working lives (A lot of them at 60% and over).

They didn't have the choice to volunteer to pay at 67. And they brought up their own kids - who themselves went out & did an honest day's graft.

So kindly take your assertion that them parasites are a boon to this country and it's business, and ram it.

I'm astonished.

You can go to all this trouble to write a post like this to display your deep republican desires but you can't understand simple economics? Then again, you do sound like a Marxist, so that's understandable.

Say it with me: "The Royal Family cost £330m per year. However, they bring in more than £330m to the country through direct tourism alone. They also provide jobs to thousands upon thousands of people. The only possible reason I could have for the removal of the Royal Family is my personal feelings towards monarchies and I fully understand that, despite reducing the £330m p/a cost, actually removing the Royal Family will hurt this country economically."

This is fact. Write as many tl;dr posts as you want. It doesn't make it any less true. It is not up for debate. You cannot argue against it. It isn't theory like the Big Bang, it isn't a belief like religion. It is fact. Water is wet, the Pope is Catholic, the Royal Family provides a net economic gain to the United Kingdom. Now, this is the EU thread. We have ventured far enough. If you want to continue to talk about the monarchy, start a monarchy thread.
 


Hey mate.

Now, this is the EU thread. We have ventured far enough. If you want to continue to talk about the monarchy, start a monarchy thread.

I don't really want to be thread banned, so I'll just remind you of that again. I won't be replying to any more posts about the monarchy on this thread.

(side note: republic.org.uk is not a valid source. Seems a little biased.)
 
I'm astonished.

You can go to all this trouble to write a post like this to display your deep republican desires but you can't understand simple economics? Then again, you do sound like a Marxist, so that's understandable.

Say it with me: "The Royal Family cost £330m per year. However, they bring in more than £330m to the country through direct tourism alone. They also provide jobs to thousands upon thousands of people. The only possible reason I could have for the removal of the Royal Family is my personal feelings towards monarchies and I fully understand that, despite reducing the £330m p/a cost, actually removing the Royal Family will hurt this country economically."

This is fact. Write as many tl;dr posts as you want. It doesn't make it any less true. It is not up for debate. You cannot argue against it. It isn't theory like the Big Bang, it isn't a belief like religion. It is fact. Water is wet, the Pope is Catholic, the Royal Family provides a net economic gain to the United Kingdom. Now, this is the EU thread. We have ventured far enough. If you want to continue to talk about the monarchy, start a monarchy thread.
It's not a fact, it's a hypothesis.
Exactly. Turn Buckingham Palace into a museum and it would be very profitable.
 
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Hey mate.



I don't really want to be thread banned, so I'll just remind you of that again. I won't be replying to any more posts about the monarchy on this thread.

(side note: republic.org.uk is not a valid source. Seems a little biased.)

Fair do's. Especially as you've shown nowt to back up your claims...

We should be deciding whether or not we should do without the centuries-old institution of the home-based leeches, before we decide whether or not the EU's any good. There's plenty of similarities in both cases.

(For bias about royalty, see our own state broadcasters and parliament itself)
 

It's not a fact, it's a hypothesis.

Exactly. Turn Buckingham Palace into a museum and it would be very profitable.

Fair do's. Especially as you've shown nowt to back up your claims...

We should be deciding whether or not we should do without the centuries-old institution of the home-based leeches, before we decide whether or not the EU's any good. There's plenty of similarities in both cases.

(For bias about royalty, see our own state broadcasters and parliament itself)

Stay on topic or keep quiet
 
You're just putting forward hypothetical situations on Europe.

Simple fact of the matter is that we put far more in than we get out. We get unskilled workers immigrating to the country that we don't need in exchange for turning away skilled workers that we could use from countries outside the EU.

EU migrants are much more likely to have a degree than the native population. If anything, migrants are often heavily over-qualified for their first job in the UK, but then work their way up. We've had this debate before, and the stats show that they are not only better workers than natives, but cost considerably less in terms of welfare. The notion that if they didn't come then the great British un-washed would rise up and become valued members of the workforce isn't really backed by any evidence.
 
EU migrants are much more likely to have a degree than the native population. If anything, migrants are often heavily over-qualified for their first job in the UK, but then work their way up. We've had this debate before, and the stats show that they are not only better workers than natives, but cost considerably less in terms of welfare. The notion that if they didn't come then the great British un-washed would rise up and become valued members of the workforce isn't really backed by any evidence.
Plus we never paid to educate them. There will also be many who return to their native homelands when they are older who won't cost our country as much in healthcare provision.
 
Plus we never paid to educate them. There will also be many who return to their native homelands when they are older who won't cost our country as much in healthcare provision.

Indeed. Even aside from the huge cultural benefits of open borders, in pure economic terms it's a bit of a no brainer. It's always baffled me why people think that someone will exhibit the drive and wherewithall to move to a foreign land, to then turn into a lazy sod that sits on their bum.

A small sample for sure, but I haven't met a single migrant from the A8 that fits that bill. Pretty much all of them are highly trained and motivated. I mean even my Czech builder friend, whilst he doesn't have a degree or anything, he knows four languages having worked on projects throughout Europe. His partner left medical school and was nannying until she learned the language enough to get a better job.

I'm not really sure where the problem people have with them is coming from.
 

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