The EU deal

[daylightrobber]

I don't know why everyone is swallowing the myth that the tories want to get out of the EU. Dismal Dave certainly doesn't, and is doing his best to skew the referendum to remain. If Corbyn was being honest he would be campaigning for the out vote as well, given his anti-EU past. Politicians in the main are looking after themselves above the interests of the country.

And the worst of the lot of them.......

 

[dholliday]

And the worst of the lot of them.......

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He's right, but it still means you can support a Brexit for other reasons.

 

[dholliday]

It's drowning in its own bureaucracy and the rest of the world is leaving it behind

aye...the bureaucracy is maddening.

 

[daylightrobber]

He's right, but it still means you can support a Brexit for other reasons.

Is that why he compared the EUs aims to those of Hitler? The guy's an idiot. A dangerous one at that.

 

[dholliday]

Is that why he compared the EUs aims to those of Hitler? The guy's an idiot. A dangerous one at that.

The Hitler comparison was to do with the control-freakery aspect of the EU. It was a stupid thing to say anyway as anyone mentioning the Nazis should fall to Godwin's Law.

 

[dholliday]

@roydo you can bet Clinton would say the opposite (as Obama did), as she's coming from that 'vested interests' side of things. Trump's not from the political establishment in that sense, but he is a worldly (and successful) businessman.

Interesting point, I think.


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/15/eu-referendum-donald-trump-brexit-uk-back-queue-us

Tycoon, on track to win presidential nomination, says it would not matter to him if a country was in the EU or not.

Donald Trump has said leaving the EU would not put Britain at the back of the queue to secure a US trade deal under his presidency – a move applauded by the Ukip leader, Nigel Farage, who admitted he had reservations about backing the controversial Republican.

Referring to Barack Obama’s warning to Britain over the EU referendum, Trump, who is on track to secure the Republican nomination, said: “I think if I were from Britain I would probably want to go back to a different system.”

Questioned about Britain’s place in any queue under a Trump presidency in an interview with Piers Morgan, to be broadcast on ITV on Monday, he said: “I don’t want to say front or anything else.

“I mean, I’m going to treat everybody fairly but it wouldn’t make any difference to me whether they were in the EU or not. You’d certainly not be at the back of the queue, that I can tell you.”

Responding to clips from the broadcast, shown on ITV’s Peston on Sunday, Farage, who had criticised Obama’s intervention, welcomed Trump’s comments. He said: “It just goes to show Donald Trump is measured, neutral, doesn’t want to get stuck into the punch-up. He’s given a very diplomatic answer.”

Asked if he would back Trump, Farage, who has said he shares concerns about an out-of-touch political class with the American, implied he would do so, but reluctantly.

“I have difficulty with that,” Farage told Peston. “Let’s put it like this, I couldn’t vote for [Hillary Clinton] even if you paid me.

“If you put me up against a wall it would be [Trump] not Hillary, but I have reservations. Encouraging people to beat up protesters, one or two things like that bother me, but look, I tell you what, I think he’s going to win.”

 

[magicjuan]

Is that why he compared the EUs aims to those of Hitler? The guy's an idiot. A dangerous one at that.

Some of the EU's goal statements, definitely in the recent past, have been almost verbatim those of the 3rd Reich.

 

[daylightrobber]

Some of the EU's goal statements, definitely in the recent past, have been almost verbatim those of the 3rd Reich.

And the way they've set about reaching them almost identical too.

 

[magicjuan]

And the way they've set about reaching them almost identical too.

I just think they've become cleverer about the violence, it's true you shouldn't ship on your own Dorset or something. Go somewhere else to do it, or alternatively, get someone to do it for you, erm, somewhere else...

 

[dandydan]

And yet Gorbachev said he saw a lot of similarities between the EU and Soviet Union.

 

[Professor Toffee]

Is that why he compared the EUs aims to those of Hitler? The guy's an idiot. A dangerous one at that.

Buffoons will rule potentially in the USA and in the 51st state lol

 

[daylightrobber]

He's right, but it still means you can support a Brexit for other reasons.

Well it's not about peace or prosperity apparently

 

[dandydan]

Most of us who wanted brexit before it went all mainstream don't trust Boris one bit.

 

[Sarnia Kevin]

 

[daylightrobber]

Rating: 0 stars

Review:
After 1.30 mins of utter tripe spouted by the likes of everybody's voice of reason Melanie Phillips, someone seriously lacking in any sense of hypocrisy, accuses the EU of pulling up the drawbridge. I stopped watching.