The EU deal

Sarnia Kevin · May 18, 2016

You watched 1.30 minutes of a 71 minute film, or 1.8%, and you make a judgement? I think your mind was already made up before you started watching.

SNova · May 20, 2016

Blue 1 · May 21, 2016

The level of public discourse around this subject has led me to conclude that I can't think of anything more dangerous than a public referendum, it's like a game of Chess between Kasparov and Botvinnik going down to the last move and Kasparov bottling it and asking Joey Essex to decide for him. Scares the crap out of me...

orchard · May 21, 2016

I see where he's coming from, it's pure propaganda and that drowns any valid issues they mention.
Obviously, the central premise, democracy vs dictatorship is unsound, unless one is also intending to establish a democratic system here upon brexit.

Sarnia Kevin said:
You watched 1.30 minutes of a 71 minute film, or 1.8%, and you make a judgement? I think your mind was already made up before you started watching.

Whistlin' Dixie · May 23, 2016

Just watched the 'Vote leave' broadcast.

What a load of shabbite, if anyone believes the alleged £350m saved by getting out will be used on the NHS really does need their heads testing. It'll go on tax breaks for the rich.

Still on the 'out' side of the fence, but they really need to do far better than that pile of crap they've just produced.

neil999 · May 23, 2016

Whistlin' Dixie said:
Just watched the 'Vote leave' broadcast.

What a load of shabbite, if anyone believes the alleged £350m saved by getting out will be used on the NHS really does need their heads testing. It'll go on tax breaks for the rich.

Still on the 'out' side of the fence, but they really need to do far better than that pile of crap they've just produced.

the best bit was nhs,everyone waiting for treatment when in the eu and everyone happy as larry getting treated straight away when outside lol

Whistlin' Dixie · May 23, 2016

neil999 said:
the best bit was nhs,everyone waiting for treatment when in the eu and everyone happy as larry getting treated straight away when outside lol

Because those caring tories (who haven't got vested interests in privatising the NHS honest to god) have done wonders, haven't they? They'll make it all better once we're out... :zzz:

It really is starting to grind now, from both sides. I haven't heard one single fact from either side, yet some div what works at B&Q (Where call me dave & gidiot gave ~~bluster~~ speeches today) said he was a lot clearer on the issues after hearing them...

I despair.

Titus Bramble · May 23, 2016

Whistlin' Dixie said:
Because those caring tories (who haven't got vested interests in privatising the NHS honest to god) have done wonders, haven't they? They'll make it all better once we're out...

It really is starting to grind now, from both sides. I haven't heard one single fact from either side, yet some div what works at B&Q (Where call me dave & gidiot gave ~~bluster~~ speeches today) said he was a lot clearer on the issues after hearing them...

I despair.

Sums it up perfectly. Whenever politicians try to debate it, it turns into a bickering match with one side stating a 'fact', then the other side laugh at said fact and pluck a completely different number out of the air and claim that to be the 'fact', rinse and repeat.

People on here will have lots more life experience than me (not calling you old... promise...) and own businesses and whatever who will have a better idea of how staying in/leaving will impact them. Whereas I'm a 25 year old who's been in full time employment for just 3 years and take relatively little interest in politics. How am I supposed to make an informed decision on whether we'd be better of to leave or stay?

roydo · May 23, 2016

Whistlin' Dixie said:
Because those caring tories (who haven't got vested interests in privatising the NHS honest to god) have done wonders, haven't they? They'll make it all better once we're out...

It really is starting to grind now, from both sides. I haven't heard one single fact from either side, yet some div what works at B&Q (Where call me dave & gidiot gave ~~bluster~~ speeches today) said he was a lot clearer on the issues after hearing them...

I despair.

Indeed. I consider myself to be reasonably intelligent, but I, like you, despair at the actual rubbish spouted by both sides.

Still not a clue how I will vote.

Deleted member 28206 · May 23, 2016

arsed

Kendall's Dream · May 23, 2016

Don't know where to put this, just in case anyone hasn't saw it & believes it:

Whistlin' Dixie · May 23, 2016

Kendall's Dream said:
Don't know where to put this, just in case anyone hasn't saw it & believes it:

I really hope this wakes a few zombies up to the snides (Of all persuasions).

People need jailing over this. Substantial terms, too.

orchard · May 23, 2016

Yep, and all legislation passed by a fraudulent government revoked etc.

Whistlin' Dixie said:
I really hope this wakes a few zombies up to the snides (Of all persuasions).

People need jailing over this. Substantial terms, too.

daylightrobber · May 23, 2016

orchard said:
Yep, and all legislation passed by a fraudulent government revoked etc.

And no referendum on the EU.

ToffeeTim · May 23, 2016

Kendall's Dream said:
Don't know where to put this, just in case anyone hasn't saw it & believes it:

I see he is in Belfast. So, as a native of that part of the world, I'm automatically assuming he's talking utter garbage. Because everything about politics over here is utter garbage.

And yes I am a little cynical.