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A short background article on the formation of the EU and the differences between the UK and the European states.....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/eu-referendum-european-union-brexit-a7049146.html

Before we can decide whether to remain in the European Union or to leave it, it is important to understand what sort of thing it is. In doing this exercise, inevitably I find aspects that I don’t like, and perhaps many others will share my opinion. This means that in answering the referendum question, there is quite a difficult calculation to be made. We must think in terms of a bargain. On one side there is the price; on the other side, the benefit. We shall have to strike the balance.

Remembering that the characters of institutions, as well as of people, are generally set in their early years, I believe we should start at the very beginning. The EU in its original form was created by six nations (“the Six”) that had been at war with each other, the victors as well as the vanquished. These were France, which was overrun by the Germans in 1940 without putting up much of a fight; the Netherlands, Belgium and tiny Luxembourg – which were too small to resist the might of the German forces – and the aggressors themselves, Germany with Italy tagging along, both in their turn overwhelmed by British and American forces.

It is worth picturing in one’s mind what this meant. When the war ended in 1945, the destruction was as bad as anything we see today in television reports from Syria or Iraq. Günter Grass, the German novelist, who was 18 years old in 1945, has described the city of Cologne as a “pile of debris with an occasional miraculously surviving street sign stuck to what was left of a façade, or hung on a pole sticking out of the rubble, which was also sprouting lush patches of dandelions about to blossom”.


Britain also suffered devastating war damage but not the dispersal of families that Grass also recounts. He has written of the heart breaking efforts of families trying to find their missing children, or parents or other family members. “In towns and villages … the corridors of municipal buildings were hung with the names and dates of the missing and, often enough, of the dead … I, too, scoured the lists, posted weekly, for signs of my parents and my three-year old younger sister.”

Out of this experience there arose a widespread and understandable hatred for the governments that had led the countries of western Europe into such misery and chaos. Even worse, after the Nazi invasions, the governments in France, Norway, the Netherlands and Belgium had sometimes enthusiastically done the Germans’ bidding. A senior French lawyer, who remained in Paris throughout the war, recounted in his recently published diary, that in the Paris police headquarters, the equivalent of Scotland Yard, the French police constantly flattered their new masters and even gave them Nazi salutes.......article continues
 
A short background article on the formation of the EU and the differences between the UK and the European states.....
Now that was interesting.
At the bottom of the article it say's he will continue tomorrow with the German take on Anglo saxons, do you have a link for it.
I can't see a date for when this article was published.
 

Interesting article on the guardian today considering whether Brexit isn't the UK separating from the EU, but merely being a forerunner for a post-EU world. As the first country to leave, we may be seen as a safe haven compared to countries still in the EU as it (possibly) crumbles.

An interesting viewpoint.
 


Our elected officials will be the ones passing laws etc. If we dont like them we can check them. Try change the president of the EU, of which there is:

President of the EU Council
President of the EU Commission
President of the EU Parliament
etc etc

Did you vote for any of them?
 
Its a lose-lose situation the EU is a joke just one big gravy train but I cant be part of handing power to Johnson/IDS/and Gove.

So I will be voting to stay in.
 
If we come out I'm hearing a lot of stuff about less protection for workers rights.

The thing is, it's very difficult to make an informed decision on the referendum because rather than facts being reported, 90% of the messages from both sides is opinion dressed up as fact.
 

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