The EU deal

[SNova]

Not sure what any of them have got to do with privatising the NHS. It's our own government pushing for that. Brexit will hand power to the Tory right and will only accelerate it.

Brexit will hand power to our government. >this is bad.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Not sure what any of them have got to do with privatising the NHS. It's our own government pushing for that. Brexit will hand power to the Tory right and will only accelerate it.

And because they're arrogant thickos they won't be elected after this term. For the rest of the economy & policies, it's a price worth paying. Let's not forget the EU commission (NOT the MEP's or the nation states' PM's & presidents) are having clandestine discussions about TTIP - A far greater and more immediate danger to the NHS than 4 years of tory rule outside the EU imo.

 

[daylightrobber]

We dont need one. We know the next 3.

So slightly different to the EU where the President is voted for twice over before being appointed.

 

[daylightrobber]

And because they're arrogant thickos they won't be elected after this term. For the rest of the economy & policies, it's a price worth paying. Let's not forget the EU commission (NOT the MEP's or the nation states' PM's & presidents) are having clandestine discussions about TTIP - A far greater and more immediate danger to the NHS than 4 years of tory rule outside the EU imo.

TTIP will exclude the NHS. That's already been agreed. If you think that the Tories won't protect the NHS in any agreement which may be made if outside of the EU, you have more faith than me.

 

[davids]

Interesting article on the guardian today considering whether Brexit isn't the UK separating from the EU, but merely being a forerunner for a post-EU world. As the first country to leave, we may be seen as a safe haven compared to countries still in the EU as it (possibly) crumbles.

An interesting viewpoint.

And yet the same about to crumble EU is who we are going to enter into new (better?) trade agreements with post Brexit.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

TTIP will exclude the NHS. That's already been agreed. If you think that the Tories won't protect the NHS in any agreement which may be made if outside of the EU, you have more faith than me.

Really? And you know this how?

 

[davids]

Our elected officials will be the ones passing laws etc. If we dont like them we can check them. Try change the president of the EU, of which there is:

President of the EU Council
President of the EU Commission
President of the EU Parliament
etc etc

Did you vote for any of them?

I'm still waiting for a vote on who enters the Lords

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

I'm still waiting for a vote on who enters the Lords

Whoever the dirty buggers pay to enter them (Usually from behind)

 

[davids]

The beauty of being out of Europe is giving ourselves the bigger say in how and what our government does. So if this guy wants to try to privatise the NHS we will have more power tp stop him.

I sadly somehow doubt anybody will be able stop the Tories from privatising the NHS

 

[daylightrobber]

Really? And you know this how?

Did you miss the news last week?

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Did you miss the news last week?

Apparently so.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

I sadly somehow doubt anybody will be able stop the Tories from privatising the NHS

The tories won't have time and will have too much of a fight on their hands for the rest of this term They won't be in next term if we leave.

TTIP will make it irreversible.

 

[daylightrobber]

Apparently so.

The Brexiters in the Tory party were all set to vote against the Queens Speech if there wasn't a protection for the NHS in the TTIP bill. Can give them some credit for that but their objective was to get one up in the EU battle rather than protecting the NHS.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

The Brexiters in the Tory party were all set to vote against the Queens Speech if there wasn't a protection for the NHS in the TTIP bill

Oh. The UK MP's are negotiating the TTIP T's&C's are they? First I've heard.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Can give them some credit for that but their objective was to get one up in the EU battle rather than protecting the NHS.

Who said the tories will protect the NHS?