Bluesnapper
Player Valuation: £8m
Kenwright is supposedly very ill. Earl very rarely sets foot in the UK and even more rarely attends the board meetings and Elstone isnt on the board.
Apart from that you are 100% correct.
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Kenwright is supposedly very ill. Earl very rarely sets foot in the UK and even more rarely attends the board meetings and Elstone isnt on the board.
Apart from that you are 100% correct.
joey_macmo
Player Valuation: £35m
Essentially the same people
Thats ok then for a minute there I thought we were in trouble
Bluesnapper
Player Valuation: £8m
No there are more groups than just KEIOC.
joey_macmo
Player Valuation: £35m
And? The people four officers of KEIOC are members of the Blue Union are they not?
KEIOC essentially became defunct when Kirkby was quashed
Bluesnapper
Player Valuation: £8m
No, just Dave Kelly.
This taken off Twitter after their AGM: 'secretary Simon Magner and also treasurer Tony Fitzpatrick who have left their roles this evening but still actively support the group’s aims. Dave Kelly was successfully re-elected as the group’s chairman, with both Richard Knights and Robbie Daniels being unanimously elected as secretary and treasurer respectively.'
This taken off Twitter after their AGM: 'secretary Simon Magner and also treasurer Tony Fitzpatrick who have left their roles this evening but still actively support the group’s aims. Dave Kelly was successfully re-elected as the group’s chairman, with both Richard Knights and Robbie Daniels being unanimously elected as secretary and treasurer respectively.'
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MickA
Player Valuation: £10m
Mate we haven't had a go and strengthened without selling since the summer of 1988.
Incidentally....
The Esk
Player Valuation: £70m
As I said the other day, if you're going to present things as fact make sure you have it right before doing so. Elstone is on the Board of Everton.
http://www.evertonfc.com/content/club/board-of-directors
Given that that the Club does not report who attends Board meetings (it is under no obligation to do so) you cannot say whether Earl attends. It is not uncommon to attend by phone when out of the country.
Bluesnapper
Player Valuation: £8m
I dont think you should believe all that you are spoon fed by the club and you will find that what I posted is correct.
Proof? These pages say different and prove my post is correct:
http://companycheck.co.uk/director/911302193/MR-ROBERT-COLIN-ELSTONE
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/00036624/EVERTON-FOOTBALL-CLUB-COMPANYLIMITEDTHE
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/0...-CLUB-COMPANYLIMITEDTHE/directors-secretaries
If you also pay to see the Companies House version you wont find Elstone there either.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I dont know how a supporters group at this level of the game is supposed to do anything other than critique their owners. There's nothing else on offer as far as I can see. We are not at a level of football that can, for example, expect a supporters trust type of intervention. It's just too large a concern to have impact, and in any case, the largest shareholders are not in the business of sharing capital with anyone outside their fellow caste. Any shares that do come into play have been quickly snapped up by the existing largest shareholders. I'm pretty sure Carter's shares will be heading that way if they haven't already. In the past the Shareholders Association has been wrestled away from the meek and mild boardroom poodles who once ran it. But that was a short run project which ran aground and the largest shareholders would have little to do with those who were more questioning.
Besides having input of that nature - on stock ownership grounds - what is there left other than to do what the BU and KEIOC have done in the near past? They are protest groups who have put forward for general consideration alternative ways of funding a stadium and getting new capital into the club. Am I missing something here? Is there anything other than that they can be doing other than what they've tried in the past, because it sounds to me like some are asking them to shoot for the moon with a pea-shooter. The balance of forces are totally against them and to expect them to do anything other than to hit and run and sporadically enter the fray with a guerilla campaign is unreasonable. IMO.
Besides having input of that nature - on stock ownership grounds - what is there left other than to do what the BU and KEIOC have done in the near past? They are protest groups who have put forward for general consideration alternative ways of funding a stadium and getting new capital into the club. Am I missing something here? Is there anything other than that they can be doing other than what they've tried in the past, because it sounds to me like some are asking them to shoot for the moon with a pea-shooter. The balance of forces are totally against them and to expect them to do anything other than to hit and run and sporadically enter the fray with a guerilla campaign is unreasonable. IMO.
The Esk
Player Valuation: £70m
Mate, I never said he was a Director of the Company, I said he is a member of the Board. You do not have to be a Director to sit on a Board.
I think you speak for many supporters there, who are probley more realistic about how football has changed. BU might have more support if it said;
1/ what it wants to happen?
2/ How that change can be achieved (this hopefully not with pure speculation about a Billionaire buyer in the wings).
joey_macmo
Player Valuation: £35m
Colin Fitz was press officer for the BU so I'm sure he will be a member, just because they aren't officers of the BU doesn't meant they aren't members
Ive no idea why you thought to jump on it anyway but "essentially the same people" was an accurate term.
Bluesnapper
Player Valuation: £8m
1 - they have said from the outset they want professional people who sell sports clubs for a living.
2 - the board say they will do it for themselves but given that thats been going on since 1999 then there isnt much hope of it happening. Pointers say the club isnt for sale despite what they say.
joey_macmo
Player Valuation: £35m
You specifically have had this answered many many times in this thread.
You also seem to be the only one who repeatedly mentions a billionaire.
We do not need a billionaire, we require a board who have the vision to move us forward whether that Be in a new stadium or a renovation of Goodison. It might take 20 years but a plan that doesn't involve a massive handout would be nice.
We need a board capable of delivering a project like Everton place.
We need a board that does not promise that the investment cheque will be in the bank in the morning (FSF)
As ever though you specifically will ask the same questions in 5 pages time pretending that it hasn't been answered so many many times in this thread.
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