The Everton Board Thread 2014/15

[Tigger]

Who is realistically going to do a better job? Unless a ready made billionaire comes in ala Citeh and Chelsea what more can we ask for. Other than last year we have been consistanly in the upper parts of the Premier League and are currently shaping up nicely for a good go next year. Lots of clubs get taken over and how many have been a raging success and even got past us? Those billionaires at Newcastle, Villa, Sunderland and big takeovers elsewhere and how many are better off? Just the two mentioned as far as I can see and they are exceptional circumstances.

 

[Moomin]

By the time that has happened, hanging themselves, god only knows what state the club will be in and what ambitions a new owner will have then.

Even now we are rudderless. Kewnright, if you believe some, is ill. Earl is nowehere to be seen. Carter has died and and that leaves Woods minding the affairs of the club.

I understand what you say about being the nice guy and playing the waiting game, but I'm not suggesting that. In fact almost the reverse. Being a protest group just entrenches positions and will in my view extend the current situation further.

I'm saying if the objective is change, the strategy should be to facilitate that change, by seeking an alignment of interests between the owners and the fans. They say the club is for sale, investment is welcome, well let the fans assist in that by being part of the process. It just then becomes a question of how?

Totally agree with both of you. I was very close to falling out with two of my best friends over kenwright, they are big fans of him since the fa cup tie Gazza ran the show against the lower league team. Murder over paying in and the que was massive, and Kenwright came out and let a load of people in for free in the mainstand and they were apart of it.

I've always appreciated he is a blue but I've never forgave him over kings dock and believe he has got involved with people who have took advantage of him.

 

[Goat]

Totally agree with both of you. I was very close to falling out with two of my best friends over kenwright, they are big fans of him since the fa cup tie Gazza ran the show against the lower league team. Murder over paying in and the que was massive, and Kenwright came out and let a load of people in for free in the mainstand and they were apart of it.

I've always appreciated he is a blue but I've never forgave him over kings dock and believe he has got involved with people who have took advantage of him.

I got locked out that game, was gutted.

 

[joey_macmo]

Well in Joey got me there, Wolves are a massively successful club that is the envy of English Football.

Yeah your right we might get a good one next time (that means a billionaire) but conversely it could easily go belly up.

It doesn't even need to be a billionaire. All that was needed was £30m for the Kings dock.

Just an owner that doesn't try to take us to a "world class" stadium in Kirkby or one that can get something like everton place done would do me.

 

[MickA]

Who is realistically going to do a better job? Unless a ready made billionaire comes in ala Citeh and Chelsea what more can we ask for. Other than last year we have been consistanly in the upper parts of the Premier League and are currently shaping up nicely for a good go next year. Lots of clubs get taken over and how many have been a raging success and even got past us? Those billionaires at Newcastle, Villa, Sunderland and big takeovers elsewhere and how many are better off? Just the two mentioned as far as I can see and they are exceptional circumstances.

Newcastle, Villa and Sunderland are a decent manager away from overtaking us. They have the infrastructure in place as will West Ham soon. Maybe then some will realise the harm that this simply making do attitude we've had in recent years will have done.

 

[Carlito]

On the subject of the Blue Union and others like them, I think the only role they have to play is to inform those fans that would otherwise have no clue about how things actually work at this club.

The idea that they ruined any chance of meaningful dialogue with the board by recording Kenwright is one of the more laughable claims I see getting wheeled out.

 

[joey_macmo]

On the subject of the Blue Union and others like them, I think the only role they have to play is to inform those fans that would otherwise have no clue about how things actually work at this club.

Thats the issue for me, one of the reasons people are trying to push the echo into doing articles about the board is the fact that so many people who step foot in goodison still take it as the gospel on anything everton.

The average blue has no idea why Everton Place failed, they have no idea about the evidence that came out of the Kirkby enquiry, they have no clue about Chris Samuelson being unveiled at the AGM only to then disappear.

Its a widespread information campaign that is needed imo

 

[Mayz]

just saw some notes on the transfer page so thought I'd post this info from company's house this shows what we have and everything else

CASH - £18,180,000 - so a little cash to play with

NET WORTH - £-48,637,000 - this has been dropping each year from 2010 from £75,044,000

ASSETS - £52,191,000 this has increased from 2010 from £11,413,000

LIABILITIES £77,203,000 this also includes aiden

(started as separate thread, now merged)

 

[The Esk]

Mate, thanks for the above. They're lifted from the 2014 accounts so show the position on May 31st 2014.

13 months on the position will have changed. I'd think that the cash position is likely to be higher at the end of May 2015 even with the Lukaku acquisition last summer. How much higher? very difficult to say.

 

[Mayz]

Il see what I can dig out on there

 

[mikewex]

Not even sure they are all 2014 figures.

CASH - £18,180,000 - so a little cash to play with

That is 2014 year end.

NET WORTH - £-48,637,000 - this has been dropping each year from 2010 from £75,044,000

Not sure what this is, the net worth (so shareholder deficit) at end 2014 was £-14,464,000 (in 2010 it was £-28,217,000). Possibly some figure incorporating significant post year end events (ie Lukaku)? Seems an odd figure though.

ASSETS - £52,191,000 this has increased from 2010 from £11,413,000

Current assets only. Total Assets were £94,185,000 (2010 £55,977,000).

LIABILITIES £77,203,000 this also includes aiden

Again, current liabilities only. Total was £108,649,000 (2010 £84,194,000). Current assets and current liabilities in themselves can be a bit misleading, effectively they include a lot of essentially offsetting items (in football usually staggered payments for players vs receipts for players). Better to take the net current assets over a period (so Current Assets - Current Liabilities) - 2014 £-25,012,000 vs 2010 £-58,833,000. But even that may not show the whole picture.

 

[leevansleep]

Does anyone actually think a billionaire buyer will give a toss if we have debts of 40 million or 25 million

we are not and never have been for sale

 

[Mayz]

Not even sure they are all 2014 figures.



That is 2014 year end.



Not sure what this is, the net worth (so shareholder deficit) at end 2014 was £-14,464,000 (in 2010 it was £-28,217,000). Possibly some figure incorporating significant post year end events (ie Lukaku)? Seems an odd figure though.



Current assets only. Total Assets were £94,185,000 (2010 £55,977,000).



Again, current liabilities only. Total was £108,649,000 (2010 £84,194,000). Current assets and current liabilities in themselves can be a bit misleading, effectively they include a lot of essentially offsetting items (in football usually staggered payments for players vs receipts for players). Better to take the net current assets over a period (so Current Assets - Current Liabilities) - 2014 £-25,012,000 vs 2010 £-58,833,000. But even that may not show the whole picture.

Net worth is what is owned minus what is owed

 

[mikewex]

Net worth is what is owned minus what is owed

Ah ok, you are stripping out the book value of the playing squad (the intangible NA). OK, seems slightly arbitrary for a football club (particularly since they are amortised and don't include players like Barkley and Garbutt), but I suppose there is no guaranteed value to the contracts.

 

[Bluesnapper]

That may be true mate, but to make progress you have to draw a line. Constantly referring to the past will get the BU nowhere. First rule of negotiation in a conflict situation is to draw a line and focus on what needs to be achieved not the wrong-doings of the past.

The board have no interest in selling.

The BU like many other Evertonians note the continued decline of our once great club from its perennial berth of being in the top four of the English league to where we are now.

This will not be broken until this board is shown the door.