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The Everton Board Thread 2014/15

Is it time for change?

  • I'm happy with the way thing are. Kenwright and the Board should stay.

  • Kenwright and the board need to go. We need change.


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The problem with getting fans involved with a club is that, by and large, the owners don't want any of it and the only time it tends to happen is a result of catastrophic events. Chelsea have the Chelsea Pitch Owners which came out of the 1990's bankruptcy - if Abramovich could get rid of them, he would in a heartbeat. Similarly, Swansea fans own 21% but that came from when the club was desperate and on the brink - now they are stable, the owners are doing everything they can to dilute that share.

Now that the broadcasting cash has mostly got Everton back from debt problems, I don't see any situation in which the board would allow fans a real say in the club
 
heres what it says in the link
Everton FC supporters set to vote on renewed board protests tomorrow
by Richard Buxton. Published Fri 10 Jul 2015 10:00, last updated: 10/07/15
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Everton fans are expected to vote tomorrow on whether to stage renewed protests against the club's board.

Chairman Bill Kenwright and his associates within the Blues' hierarchy have faced an increased level of criticism from supporters in the wake of admissions by Robert Elstone that the club were approaching plans over moving to a new stadium in Walton Hall Park with trepidation.

The Everton chief executive revealed in May that the proposal to move a short distance from their spiritual Goodison Park home would be taken into consideration "if the deal makes sense for the club" rather than add "the burden of significant debt on the club".

Recent revelations that the club also decided against opting out of their problematic merchandising partnership with Kitbag last year have further intensified the scrutiny on the current administration.

Following supporters' requests, The Blue Union will be holding a public meeting at The Casa in Liverpool city centre tomorrow afternoon to address concerns about the club's long-term future, which could result in plans to demonstrate against the current ownership.

However Dave Kelly, chairman of the group insists that any decision to stage protests for the first time since 2011 will be dependent on the feelings of those Evertonians in attendance.

"One thing we've always been keen to put out there is that the Blue Union is not an anti-board or a 'Kenwright out' group. We never have been and we never will be," he told Click Liverpool.

"The message we believe that we've got to get out there is that we want exactly the same as what Bill Kenwright wants; he wants someone to come into Everton Football Club who's got the resources to allow us to kick on. We're not advocating 'Kenwright out', we're actually advocating 'stagnation out' and 'investment in'.

"You only have to look at the statements coming out of Tottenham Hotspur over the last 48 hours. They're clearly a club with money but more importantly they've got ambition.

"Currently, the only plan our club has got is that the board has an exit strategy. But the reality of that is, once they're out, we've still got no plans to move the club forward and that's what we're keen to promote.

"We've consistently said in the past when we've campaigned on this sort of issue about the club not having a plan A - they haven't actually even got a plan B at the moment that's deliverable. We've got neither money, nor a plan or ambition - and that's extremely worrying."

He added: "We've always personally believed that when the fan base does turn on the board, it will be a spontaneous thing and it'll be something that we've got very little or anything to do with.

"However we also believe that if that situation arose, that people would see us as the natural vehicle to move their frustrations on - and that's exactly what's happened. Lots of people have contacted us in big numbers saying 'you need to up the campaign' and that's what the meeting is all about. It's gauging the anger and frustration felt by the fans.

"We want to listen to the fans we purport to represent - and if fans are actually saying 'let's start organising protests, let's highlight the current plight at the football club', that's exactly what we'll do. We'll be balloted by supporters of our group - not by what I want or any individual wants."

Respected architect Trevor Skempton is also set to deliver a presentation outlining the viable modernisation of Everton's existing Goodison stadium at the meeting.

Skempton, currently a lecturer at the University of Liverpool, previously oversaw the expansion of St James Park and Villa Park during his involvement in the respective redevelopments of Newcastle and Birmingham city centre as well as working on the building of Liverpool One in his role at Liverpool City Council.
 

"The message we believe that we've got to get out there is that we want exactly the same as what Bill Kenwright wants; he wants someone to come into Everton Football Club who's got the resources to allow us to kick on. We're not advocating 'Kenwright out', we're actually advocating 'stagnation out' and 'investment in'.
Great that the Blue Union are trying to play the moderate, consensus role in the media. But advocating "stagnation out/investment in" is just interchangeable terminology for "Kenwright out"....it's exactly the same thing
 
Great that the Blue Union are trying to play the moderate, consensus role in the media. But advocating "stagnation out/investment in" is just interchangeable terminology for "Kenwright out"....it's exactly the same thing
Words are important. "Kenwright out" allows Bill to paint himself as the victim, they're making it personal. Changing it attacks the performance of the board not the individuals of the board which is the way it should always be.
 
heres what it says in the link
Everton FC supporters set to vote on renewed board protests tomorrow
by Richard Buxton. Published Fri 10 Jul 2015 10:00, last updated: 10/07/15
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View image | gettyimages.com


Everton fans are expected to vote tomorrow on whether to stage renewed protests against the club's board.

Chairman Bill Kenwright and his associates within the Blues' hierarchy have faced an increased level of criticism from supporters in the wake of admissions by Robert Elstone that the club were approaching plans over moving to a new stadium in Walton Hall Park with trepidation.

The Everton chief executive revealed in May that the proposal to move a short distance from their spiritual Goodison Park home would be taken into consideration "if the deal makes sense for the club" rather than add "the burden of significant debt on the club".

Recent revelations that the club also decided against opting out of their problematic merchandising partnership with Kitbag last year have further intensified the scrutiny on the current administration.

Following supporters' requests, The Blue Union will be holding a public meeting at The Casa in Liverpool city centre tomorrow afternoon to address concerns about the club's long-term future, which could result in plans to demonstrate against the current ownership.

However Dave Kelly, chairman of the group insists that any decision to stage protests for the first time since 2011 will be dependent on the feelings of those Evertonians in attendance.

"One thing we've always been keen to put out there is that the Blue Union is not an anti-board or a 'Kenwright out' group. We never have been and we never will be," he told Click Liverpool.

"The message we believe that we've got to get out there is that we want exactly the same as what Bill Kenwright wants; he wants someone to come into Everton Football Club who's got the resources to allow us to kick on. We're not advocating 'Kenwright out', we're actually advocating 'stagnation out' and 'investment in'.

"You only have to look at the statements coming out of Tottenham Hotspur over the last 48 hours. They're clearly a club with money but more importantly they've got ambition.

"Currently, the only plan our club has got is that the board has an exit strategy. But the reality of that is, once they're out, we've still got no plans to move the club forward and that's what we're keen to promote.

"We've consistently said in the past when we've campaigned on this sort of issue about the club not having a plan A - they haven't actually even got a plan B at the moment that's deliverable. We've got neither money, nor a plan or ambition - and that's extremely worrying."

He added: "We've always personally believed that when the fan base does turn on the board, it will be a spontaneous thing and it'll be something that we've got very little or anything to do with.

"However we also believe that if that situation arose, that people would see us as the natural vehicle to move their frustrations on - and that's exactly what's happened. Lots of people have contacted us in big numbers saying 'you need to up the campaign' and that's what the meeting is all about. It's gauging the anger and frustration felt by the fans.

"We want to listen to the fans we purport to represent - and if fans are actually saying 'let's start organising protests, let's highlight the current plight at the football club', that's exactly what we'll do. We'll be balloted by supporters of our group - not by what I want or any individual wants."

Respected architect Trevor Skempton is also set to deliver a presentation outlining the viable modernisation of Everton's existing Goodison stadium at the meeting.

Skempton, currently a lecturer at the University of Liverpool, previously oversaw the expansion of St James Park and Villa Park during his involvement in the respective redevelopments of Newcastle and Birmingham city centre as well as working on the building of Liverpool One in his role at Liverpool City Council.
heres what it says in the link
Everton FC supporters set to vote on renewed board protests tomorrow
by Richard Buxton. Published Fri 10 Jul 2015 10:00, last updated: 10/07/15
View Comments (0)

Bit of a strange statement that, its obviously easy to be ambitious if you have money, its impossible if you haven't. The league never lies and the top teams are those with money and consequently money.


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Everton fans are expected to vote tomorrow on whether to stage renewed protests against the club's board.

Chairman Bill Kenwright and his associates within the Blues' hierarchy have faced an increased level of criticism from supporters in the wake of admissions by Robert Elstone that the club were approaching plans over moving to a new stadium in Walton Hall Park with trepidation.

The Everton chief executive revealed in May that the proposal to move a short distance from their spiritual Goodison Park home would be taken into consideration "if the deal makes sense for the club" rather than add "the burden of significant debt on the club".

Recent revelations that the club also decided against opting out of their problematic merchandising partnership with Kitbag last year have further intensified the scrutiny on the current administration.

Following supporters' requests, The Blue Union will be holding a public meeting at The Casa in Liverpool city centre tomorrow afternoon to address concerns about the club's long-term future, which could result in plans to demonstrate against the current ownership.

However Dave Kelly, chairman of the group insists that any decision to stage protests for the first time since 2011 will be dependent on the feelings of those Evertonians in attendance.

"One thing we've always been keen to put out there is that the Blue Union is not an anti-board or a 'Kenwright out' group. We never have been and we never will be," he told Click Liverpool.

"The message we believe that we've got to get out there is that we want exactly the same as what Bill Kenwright wants; he wants someone to come into Everton Football Club who's got the resources to allow us to kick on. We're not advocating 'Kenwright out', we're actually advocating 'stagnation out' and 'investment in'.

"You only have to look at the statements coming out of Tottenham Hotspur over the last 48 hours. They're clearly a club with money but more importantly they've got ambition.

"Currently, the only plan our club has got is that the board has an exit strategy. But the reality of that is, once they're out, we've still got no plans to move the club forward and that's what we're keen to promote.

"We've consistently said in the past when we've campaigned on this sort of issue about the club not having a plan A - they haven't actually even got a plan B at the moment that's deliverable. We've got neither money, nor a plan or ambition - and that's extremely worrying."

He added: "We've always personally believed that when the fan base does turn on the board, it will be a spontaneous thing and it'll be something that we've got very little or anything to do with.

"However we also believe that if that situation arose, that people would see us as the natural vehicle to move their frustrations on - and that's exactly what's happened. Lots of people have contacted us in big numbers saying 'you need to up the campaign' and that's what the meeting is all about. It's gauging the anger and frustration felt by the fans.

"We want to listen to the fans we purport to represent - and if fans are actually saying 'let's start organising protests, let's highlight the current plight at the football club', that's exactly what we'll do. We'll be balloted by supporters of our group - not by what I want or any individual wants."

Respected architect Trevor Skempton is also set to deliver a presentation outlining the viable modernisation of Everton's existing Goodison stadium at the meeting.

Skempton, currently a lecturer at the University of Liverpool, previously oversaw the expansion of St James Park and Villa Park during his involvement in the respective redevelopments of Newcastle and Birmingham city centre as well as working on the building of Liverpool One in his role at Liverpool City Council.
 

However Dave Kelly, chairman of the group insists that any decision to stage protests for the first time since 2011 will be dependent on the feelings of those Evertonians in attendance.
Ok, irrespective on my own feelings on the matter, I think taking a vote on whether to protest from amongst a group of people who actually turn up for a BU meeting MIGHT be considered stacking the deck somewhat! :D
 
Dave Kelly spoke a lot of sense. Personally I want to see how next year goes. If there's no movement on the stadium then I think they should restart protesting but not this year. There's a lot of steps to go through to get planning so it's understandable nothing has been announced yet.

I've said it elsewhere on here before.

The financial regulations and the tv money situation

Means I'm giving them three months.

No progress on the WHP or major capacity expansion. I'll give the BU my blessing to kick this lot out.

If we miss this window we will not complete with Spurs or West Ham who have spades in the ground.
 
I'll give the BU my blessing to kick this lot out.
Because they've been so startlingly effective so far!!

You know they can't actually kick the board out, right? They own the club.

Unless they can organise a mass boycott of match attendance, there's really very little that can be done until the board decide they want to sell up.

And to be honest, the way TV money dwarfs income from ticket sales, even an empty Goodison would put very little financial pressure on.
 
Because they've been so startlingly effective so far!!

You know they can't actually kick the board out, right? They own the club.

Unless they can organise a mass boycott of match attendance, there's really very little that can be done until the board decide they want to sell up.

And to be honest, the way TV money dwarfs income from ticket sales, even an empty Goodison would put very little financial pressure on.

I don't need to be lectured by you.

Application of financial and media pressure will force an intransigent board out.
 
I don't need to be lectured by you.

Application of financial and media pressure will force an intransigent board out.
I'm not lecturing you mate, but we see all this talk of "kicking out the board", but it doesn't work 99% of the time.

For one thing, it's almost impossible to put financial pressure on the board of Premier League football clubs these days. The board members don't take the majority of their income from the club, and the money coming in from Sky etc is so astonishingly massive, that it makes gate income almost inconsequential.

In terms of financial pressure, what's the absolute most the BU could hope to accomplish? We'll probably sell about 25k season tickets this season (give or take)... So let's say out of the remaining 10,000 seats (knocking off the away fans), they managed to convince 50% to boycott home games - which to be honest would be success beyond their wildest dreams...

That's 5000 seats, at a cost of (roughly) £35-£40 a pop.

That's about £3.5m in gate receipts lost. A lot of money to be sure, but when you consider that Sky money from next season will be about £100m for the team that finishes BOTTOM... it just doesn't make any difference.

Even if they got everyone to stop buying merchandise etc, it wouldn't make much odds... since as we know, the club's income doesn't vary much dependent on the number of sales, under the kitbag deal.


Media pressure might make a bit of difference I suppose, but the BU hasn't shown any ability to actually make this happen in the past. Not to mention the fact that (so far as we know) the board's plan is to make tens of millions in profit on the eventual sale of the club at a time to suit them...

How much abuse would you put up with for tens of millions?
 

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