The Everton Board Thread 2015/16 [ Not takeover related ]

[billybeeru]

Also, you'd be hard pressed to find an American sports stadium that wasn't taxpayer-funded (we're huge suckers when it comes to that), so I wouldn't exactly hold that against them.

Also, this. That's how it's done in the U.S. now. Once team owners realized they could strong-arm cities into giving them free money to help finance stadiums, the precedent was set for all future stadium deals. Now it's routine, even though it's ridiculous.

 

[SerenityNigh]

no

Man Utd
Sunderland
Liverpool ( hicks and Gillet)
Vietnam
Villa

Arsenal? They're ok like
Millwall hasn't done any worse with their owner, have they?
United is a canard--their recent success is all dependent on Ferguson
Liverpool's new ownership seems better than their prior owners
The guy who owns Roma is too new to judge

So it then Hicks, Lerner, and Short who are the bad American owners?

 

[Pacman]

Arsenal? They're ok like
Millwall hasn't done any worse with their owner, have they?
United is a canard--their recent success is all dependent on Ferguson
Liverpool's new ownership seems better than their prior owners
The guy who owns Roma is too new to judge

So it then Hicks, Lerner, and Short who are the bad American owners?

Short has invested alot of his own money into Sunderland, just his manager appointments/organisation of the club (DOF) has let them down.

 

[Pacman]

What makes you think that? Moores held onto the Padres for 17 years, and only sold then because of his divorce. I don't see anything in his history to indicate he looks to flip assets for short term profits.

I think with the new TV deal alot of investors will buy into clubs knowing they can make a big profit in the long term. Outside of City and Chelsea I can see a number of clubs being bought out/invested in. Palace and hopefully us will just be the start in my opinion.

 

[Ashtonian]

They won 4 division titles under his leadership, including playing in a world series. And they got a new ballpark which is incredible.

They won one mate. Took over in 94, they won it in 1998.

According to wikipedia

 

[mlyons]

Who are the good owners that we're comparing the Americans to, by the way? Other than billionaires who have a football club as a status symbol, what is the ideal example of an owner we'd like to have? The Liebherrs at Southampton? Daniel Levy? The porn merchants at West Ham?

 

[SerenityNigh]

Also, you'd be hard pressed to find an American sports stadium that wasn't taxpayer-funded (we're huge suckers when it comes to that), so I wouldn't exactly hold that against them.

Even the temple Jerry Jones built for himself had public money in it (add NFL money and it's ~40% public + league investment)

 

[l4toffee]

Arsenal? They're ok like
Millwall hasn't done any worse with their owner, have they?
United is a canard--their recent success is all dependent on Ferguson
Liverpool's new ownership seems better than their prior owners
The guy who owns Roma is too new to judge

So it then Hicks, Lerner, and Short who are the bad American owners?

Arsenal aren't owned outright by Americans for one .?

I didn't even know millwall were owned by yanks

 

[Walken]

Investment and kenwright and his cronies gone would be great, but if american owners means tim howard stays we are honestly better off with no money

 

[mlyons]

They won one mate. Took over in 94, they won it in 1998.

According to wikipedia

They lost to the Yankees in the 1998 World Series (no shame in that, the 1998 Yankees might have been the best team ever).

 

[Eggs]

....a couple of points, the timing of this appears to align with LCC statement to defer their decision until the 'New Year'. Also, although concentration is on this bid I wonder if any other potential buyers are still involved but not as advanced in the process.

 

[PhilM]

Short who are the bad American owners?

Although I can't profess to know the entire situation at the club, I didn't think Short had been too bad during his ownership of Sunderland.

Positive net spend (above £50m+ mark) and willing to spend reasonable amounts on player acquisition for a club that has regularly foundered.

I took it as he'd been let down by poor managers and their even worse signings. Clever signings and they wouldn't be such a mess.

 

[SerenityNigh]

Short has invested alot of his own money into Sunderland, just his manager appointments/organisation of the club (DOF) has let them down.

Maybe so, and his tenure isn't over so let's see what happens, but taking the long view, an owner needs to deliver the goods and can't blame failure on his lieutenants

 

[Ashtonian]

They lost to the Yankees in the 1998 World Series (no shame in that, the 1998 Yankees might have been the best team ever).

Aye, but that was as good as it got for them.

 

[SerenityNigh]

Arsenal aren't owned outright by Americans for one .?

I didn't even know millwall were owned by yanks

Kroenke owns 67% of Arsenal

I don't know much about Berylson at Millwall, but he's been there since 2007 and Millwall supporters hate everything, so I assume this means he's decent