The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[sirblue57]

it beggars belief that after more than a decade, the ONLY improvement done by this board is BLUE F###KING GRAVEL and people still think their fit to run the club.

 

[RFUS]

I'm still on the fence, as ever, but it's nice to see the media reflect the other side for once.

 

[jimbo2011]

Surely BK has to come out fighting sooner or later instead of hiding behind Ross and Elstone?

 

[Sharpys top lip]

Surely BK has to come out fighting sooner or later instead of hiding behind Ross and Elstone?

 

[Allezfan]

it beggars belief that after more than a decade, the ONLY improvement done by this board is BLUE F###KING GRAVEL and people still think their fit to run the club.

I'm as Kenwrong as they come, mate, but, credit where credits due, the team and management are also a lot better.

 

[sirblue57]

maybe, but for that i give most of the credit to moyes, thankfully a decision bill got spot on.

 

[ToffeeMark]

Read the quotes in the Mirror etc but checked the Official website and this was missed off (Can't trust the media to give you the whole truth) which suggests although we're not getting cash off the chairman, maybe the club has improved behind the scenes:

By the way I like to get the whole story before making my mind up, other than half a picture skewed to suit someones agenda. I'm not happy about our lack of signings but then we've not lost any top players yet and they put quite an effort in to paying our squad well and nailing them to long term contracts. I'd be happy for money bags to come in and buy us but I don't think things are as close to heading down the toilet as is being argued.

Robert Elstone:
"And commercial weakness? When I joined six years ago, we had a retail operation losing £500,000 per season and a main sponsor deal with Chang earning the Club around £1m per season. We had a relatively modest ‘family' of second-tier partners. Rolling forward to 2011/12, we are entering into year three of a ten year detail with Kitbag that has transformed a loss of £500,000 into £30m+ of profit over a ten year period, we will move into the eighth year of our Chang partnership valued at around £10m over the next three year term, and have secured lucrative deals on betting, travel partner, our credit card and others, without forgetting to mention last summer's £1m trip to Australia. And a small point of detail, almost every other Club records retail turnover in its income line. Everton doesn't, it records the guaranteed profit from Kitbag. Our £80m turnover would be higher if we mirrored the rest of the Premier League (likewise, our wage turnover ratio would be better)."

 

[Silas]

Our response to Elstone's blog on our website lids.

 

[kenada_blue]

...and hence the money quote in Prentice's latest article:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif] But some fans will still refuse to accept it, but until one investor goes public and makes it clear that Kenwright is either asking for too much or deliberately blocking a sale it’s difficult to argue with.
And none ever has.

The operative words being "Some fans refuse to accept..." and "none ever has."

Case closed mates. And if it's so easy to find all of these legitimate offers, no doubt it'll be easy for you to provide all sorts of links and factual information to back up your claims.

The fact that you continue to tell me to do the research tells me, as I already know, that you've not got a leg to stand on and cannot provide one shred of evidence that Kenwright and the board have turned down legitimate offers for Everton Football Club.




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So youre saying no one is interested full stop?

 

[keverton]

This is the comment, mate.

"I worry for everton boardroom unrest could lead to a slide of relegation, as we saw effect liverpool, admittedly mainly roys doing. It is worth pointing that ticket prices for everton are modest and the stadium isnt bulging with fans, but there is commitment and besides high wages on a squad depth considerable for just such a mid table team, the only answer is that kenwright is pocketing if not.

I'd have a dig at evertonians and suggest moyes should be better in the transfer market and invest like Rafael benitez who after all only spent 10.5 mil on average per season. i.e alsonso in for 10 out for 30. I only mention this in irony since they have great belief that he was a rubbish manager, the irony.

On the other side of merseyside though, i do not wish our rivals to be relegated, as as much banter i could give, such a great city deserves two teams in this league, plus if the bitterness got any further, i'd top myself."

Typical bitter, deluded RS.

cheers for pointing that out mate. Now see you where your coming from. I start to fume.

 

[keverton]

Read the quotes in the Mirror etc but checked the Official website and this was missed off (Can't trust the media to give you the whole truth) which suggests although we're not getting cash off the chairman, maybe the club has improved behind the scenes:

By the way I like to get the whole story before making my mind up, other than half a picture skewed to suit someones agenda. I'm not happy about our lack of signings but then we've not lost any top players yet and they put quite an effort in to paying our squad well and nailing them to long term contracts. I'd be happy for money bags to come in and buy us but I don't think things are as close to heading down the toilet as is being argued.

Robert Elstone:
"And commercial weakness? When I joined six years ago, we had a retail operation losing £500,000 per season and a main sponsor deal with Chang earning the Club around £1m per season. We had a relatively modest ‘family' of second-tier partners. Rolling forward to 2011/12, we are entering into year three of a ten year detail with Kitbag that has transformed a loss of £500,000 into £30m+ of profit over a ten year period, we will move into the eighth year of our Chang partnership valued at around £10m over the next three year term, and have secured lucrative deals on betting, travel partner, our credit card and others, without forgetting to mention last summer's £1m trip to Australia. And a small point of detail, almost every other Club records retail turnover in its income line. Everton doesn't, it records the guaranteed profit from Kitbag. Our £80m turnover would be higher if we mirrored the rest of the Premier League (likewise, our wage turnover ratio would be better)."

thought that was a interesting read to there made. Not sure what to make off it all as i am not financially savvy and do not know what it means in the grand scheme of things

 

[Hibbert&Ernie]

More bash the board, more ''truth'', ''facts'' and ''realism''. It is like a Benitez press conference. Sad sad sad!

 

[davek]

Read the quotes in the Mirror etc but checked the Official website and this was missed off (Can't trust the media to give you the whole truth) which suggests although we're not getting cash off the chairman, maybe the club has improved behind the scenes:

By the way I like to get the whole story before making my mind up, other than half a picture skewed to suit someones agenda. I'm not happy about our lack of signings but then we've not lost any top players yet and they put quite an effort in to paying our squad well and nailing them to long term contracts. I'd be happy for money bags to come in and buy us but I don't think things are as close to heading down the toilet as is being argued.

Robert Elstone:
"And commercial weakness? When I joined six years ago, we had a retail operation losing £500,000 per season and a main sponsor deal with Chang earning the Club around £1m per season. We had a relatively modest ‘family' of second-tier partners. Rolling forward to 2011/12, we are entering into year three of a ten year detail with Kitbag that has transformed a loss of £500,000 into £30m+ of profit over a ten year period, we will move into the eighth year of our Chang partnership valued at around £10m over the next three year term, and have secured lucrative deals on betting, travel partner, our credit card and others, without forgetting to mention last summer's £1m trip to Australia. And a small point of detail, almost every other Club records retail turnover in its income line. Everton doesn't, it records the guaranteed profit from Kitbag. Our £80m turnover would be higher if we mirrored the rest of the Premier League (likewise, our wage turnover ratio would be better)."

I dont know what you (or for that matter Elstone) are driving at there. Those main sponsorship deals broken into per annum are distinctly average for a club our size and stature. Getting deals with credit card companies, travel companies etc...isn't this what all clubs do? I think they do you know. As for a different way of recording retail income - he's right, it is a small point of detail, and one which occurs, presumably, because he and the board have subcontracted out retail for a lump sum rather than keep it in-house.

His points on commercial *improvement* were just a bit of nonsense cobbled together to deflect.

 

[dave1001]

I think its a very good article and does some up the feeling between evertonians at the min.
We aren't asking for a lot just some truth and to let us know what is happening with our club!
Ok we don't expect the board to tell us everything but it would be nice to know what is happening and why!

Good to see that this Peoples Group have got some notice to, and some media attention.

 

[pezzer1]

We (Evertonian) want, need change. Your living on a different planet.

This but I think were stuck with him. He will only leave us when hes in a wooden box. I might have to think about putting him in one if he doesn't hurry up an do one