The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[billycopper]

I'm still on the fence, as ever, but it's nice to see the media reflect the other side for once.

It's a political business. They can't always come out and say things as they are. For example, if they genuinely are looking for investment, then saying publically that we're skint is going to devalue the club. If they said that there's definitely not going to be any summer signings, then season ticket and merchandising sales suffer and the club loses money. To a degree they do need to put a spin on things. But, I do also think that they lie and they avoid issues that they'd do better to confront. I imagine that they have a very difficult job and, for the most part, they do very well. The academy, the women's team and Everton in the Community are outstanding successes. Given that we've had very little money to spend, the first team is very strong too. That's why I try not to be too critical of the board.

 

[Chang Elephant]

So youre saying no one is interested full stop?

He's using some tortuous logic but my take is that he wants proof of a legitimate offer. But, there's no definition available to clarify what a "legitimate offer" consists of, so it's subjective to TX.

Given his requirements for a transaction date and price, TX must be talking about a formal written down offer.

I reckon 100% of serious potential buyers would first want to talk to Bill/Green about the sale value they're after. Then float a verbal offer past Bill/Green to see whether they were close on valuations. Then conduct full financial due dilligence.

Only at that stage would anyone of sound mind submit a "legitimate offer".

But, and this is the connundrum that TX's request for "legitimate offers" faces.... if anyone had got that far..... and still thought Bill/Green's overcooked price was reasonable against the club's financial position, we'd now be sold.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

He's using some tortuous logic but my take is that he wants proof of a legitimate offer. But, there's no definition available to clarify what a "legitimate offer" consists of, so it's subjective to TX.

Given his requirements for a transaction date and price, TX must be talking about a formal written down offer.

I reckon 100% of serious potential buyers would first want to talk to Bill/Green about the sale value they're after. Then float a verbal offer past Bill/Green to see whether they were close on valuations. Then conduct full financial due dilligence.

Only at that stage would anyone of sound mind submit a "legitimate offer".

But, and this is the connundrum that TX's request for "legitimate offers" faces.... if anyone had got that far..... and still thought Bill/Green's overcooked price was reasonable against the club's financial position, we'd now be sold.

And in Bills defence, its all very well and good wanting actually proof of something before you believe it but he knows as well as we all do that you don't have to have 100% proof of something in order to believe it.

If a weatherman told Bill it was going to rain outside later today, and he could say that after studying and observing weather patterns over many years i reckon Bill would believe him rather than sitting with his head out the window waiting for proof that comes with the first raindrop.

Wanting proof of a reasonable offer is fine, but if he then believes there has never been one without proof yet considering all the other factors in play regarding Everton and our sellability he's very naive.

 

[sirblue57]

More bash the board, more ''truth'', ''facts'' and ''realism''. It is like a Benitez press conference. Sad sad sad!

grow up will you, "bash the board?" the act of the matter,to put it simply for YOU,is that. had david moyes been as "successful" as BK, he would have been sacked a LONG time ago. the truth is . the ONLY reason anyone still has time for him is "he's a blue".
despite failure after failure, lie after lie, pathetic anecdote after anecdote.people still give him credit for not taking us into administration(doing a leeds,portsmouth,yaddah.....) F##K OFF, thats not an accomplishment, its his DUTY, to run us and make money to buy players and look after the club, HE IS THE CUSTODIAN . its not like M&S, and don't dare say it is. football is based on emotional attachment, if you do not understand the basic difference then i feel sorry for you, or maybe your our next CEO. its a shame when a bloody red writer gets the point more than supporters.

 

[Hibbert&Ernie]

Go out and buy Everton or any club with your emotional attachment then. Good luck.

 

[The Equaliser]

[QUOTE. its a shame when a bloody red writer gets the point more than supporters.[/QUOTE]

Sure is, and a it's a sure sign that the rumblings of discontent are getting louder...

 

[worldsportsclub]

Good piece!

 

[nainotreve]

It's a political business. They can't always come out and say things as they are. For example, if they genuinely are looking for investment, then saying publically that we're skint is going to devalue the club. If they said that there's definitely not going to be any summer signings, then season ticket and merchandising sales suffer and the club loses money. To a degree they do need to put a spin on things. But, I do also think that they lie and they avoid issues that they'd do better to confront. I imagine that they have a very difficult job and, for the most part, they do very well. The academy, the women's team and Everton in the Community are outstanding successes. Given that we've had very little money to spend, the first team is very strong too. That's why I try not to be too critical of the board.

Good post, I agree with most of that. I think our squad is very good, not just the 1st team. Once the season starts I wonder if the criticisms ebb and flow along with results on the pitch. If after 6 games we are near the bottom I can foresee physical protests. However if we make a great start, any howls of protest will be relegated to the forums.

 

[davek]

Good post, I agree with most of that. I think our squad is very good, not just the 1st team. Once the season starts I wonder if the criticisms ebb and flow along with results on the pitch. If after 6 games we are near the bottom I can foresee physical protests. However if we make a great start, any howls of protest will be relegated to the forums.

What does that matter? Six games in - whether it's good, bad or indifferent form - it wont change the structural limits of Everton progressing without big changes.

 

[nainotreve]

What does that matter? Six games in - whether it's good, bad or indifferent form - it wont change the structural limits of Everton progressing without big changes.

It matters a great deal, to any organised grievance; a successful start to the season would mute the majority of protest. Football fans (all of them) are notoriously fickle. Protesting would also attract derision from the media if Everton appear near the top end.

 

[The Equaliser]

It matters a great deal, to any organised grievance; a successful start to the season would mute the majority of protest. Football fans (all of them) are notoriously fickle. Protesting would also attract derision from the media if Everton appear near the top end.

:huh: So the media were deriding Utd fans for protesting against the Glazers despite being at the top of the league ??

 

[Allezfan]

:huh: So the media were deriding Utd fans for protesting against the Glazers despite being at the top of the league ??

The protests died off a lot last year after they won number 19 and made their third champions league final in four years and were at thier strongest when the team wasn't performing.

End of the day, supporters want success on the field, off the field stuff only matters when that's not happening and we go looking for the causes of our failiures. I would say the way we talk much more about finances than football on here is as big a sign of how bad a position the club's in as any other.

The boards job is to give our team the best chance of success and they haven't done it but we're only pointing fingers at them because the team isn't succeeding. If we win the treble next year the board's incompetance will bother me a lot less then it will if we finish bottom of the league and I honestly think it's weird not to agree with that.

 

[The Equaliser]

Agree that the strength of protest is directly related to the (lack of) success on the pitch. But I don't think it's true that protesting necessarily attracts derision from the media if it is justified and being done for the right reasons, whether a club is being successful on the pitch or not.

 

[sirblue57]

Go out and buy Everton or any club with your emotional attachment then. Good luck.

its idiots like you who annoy me most, come into a thread, don't like what they read, and just whinge without putting anything constructive into the debate its simple either put a point of view or shut up whining like a little kid.

 

[Hibbert&Ernie]

its idiots like you who annoy me most, come into a thread, don't like what they read, and just whinge without putting anything constructive into the debate its simple either put a point of view or shut up whining like a little kid.

The three words I have for you rhyme with the following.
Go tuck yourself in.