The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[thebluefox]

Everton bought for £20M from Johnson: zero investment from owners over the past 12 years = they want £150M.

bellfield gone ,and renting a training ground ,

 

[Brennan]

bellfield gone ,and renting a training ground ,

It's just the reality of the economic climate mate, nobody is buying football clubs mate honest.

 

[davek]

My eyes are rolling so hard, I might injure myself.

I dont know why. Which part is untrue?

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Oh dear.

 

[Allezfan]

I dont know why. Which part is untrue?

The part where the fact that we're badly run means we're no longer Everton and the fans are no longer Evertonians. Not much of one for 'for better and for worse' are you?

 

[Mvflusk]

How to facilitate reasoned debate: take half of a person's message and post it, changing the context completely.

Few people asking me why buy notts forest and not Everton. Simple commercial numbers. Forest languishing in lower Championship has more

Potential for a quick business return than a club as Everton, always finishing in the top echelon of the PL. Forest - revenue is £15m..

Wage bill - £16m. New owner may feel with a £25m investment, get into the PL and a club bought for say £15m, could then be worth £100m+

 

[davek]

The part where the fact that we're badly run means we're no longer Everton and the fans are no longer Evertonians. Not much of one for 'for better and for worse' are you?

I didnt say we're no longer Everton and that Evertonians were no longer Evertonians, I said it's a hollowed out version, unrecognisable as the club I grew up supporting. And it is. And those changes have, in turn, affected the attitude of Evertonians. Pretty uncontroversial (unrolling of eyes) stuff.

This is not a club that anyone even fifteen to twenty years ago would recognise. That's the Kenwright legacy.

 

[Allezfan]

I dont even consider this to be Everton FC anymore, to be honest

I didnt say we're no longer Everton

Righto.

 

[davek]

Righto.

Yes, that's my perception. Objectively though the club exist as Everton.

This is all pretty logical stuff mate. No inconsistencies...however hard you look for them.

 

[Cena]

I see where Davek is coming from.

It is sad that some of our fans have accepted things as they are. We accept not winning trophies, we accept that we'd ground-share with our most despised neighbours because it would get us a few more corporate boxes, we accept simple things like a delay in our kit being launched because 'we have to wait our turn' and we accept Forest are a more attractive proposition than us but Bill is a boss blue.

 

[Stutheblue]

There is always a reason why we don't get a takeover (or 'investment') - We're in the same city as Liverpool, we haven't got a decent stadium like Man City had when they got taken over, we're not located in London etc etc. Now QPR new owner wants to build a new stadium in expensive SW London no less. Forest get bought by Kuwaitees seemingly with pots of money. So we're now back to the arguement as to the 'asking price' being too high!! Round and round in circles we go!!

 

[kenada_blue]

How to facilitate reasoned debate: take half of a person's message and post it, changing the context completely.

Few people asking me why buy notts forest and not Everton. Simple commercial numbers. Forest languishing in lower Championship has more

Potential for a quick business return than a club as Everton, always finishing in the top echelon of the PL. Forest - revenue is £15m..

Wage bill - £16m. New owner may feel with a £25m investment, get into the PL and a club bought for say £15m, could then be worth £100m+

Re-read the whole thing before you start dishing out neg rep mate.

Just confirms its down to the selling price.

Our head of comms has basically said - these Arabs have bought forest for 25mill, hope to get into the prem and hopefully forest will be worth double or 100mill+

Seems to me to confirm that our asking price doesn't relate in the slightest for a investor to buy us and hope to make some money

There is no context that's been changed there. As a whole, it means they've bought Forest for a reasonable price and hope to make money from it. In other words, they/others etc wont buy Everton because its not a reasonable price to make money from it.

My fault if I've put a spin on it by not putting the whole thing up.

 

[MartSlinger]

There is always a reason why we don't get a takeover (or 'investment') - We're in the same city as Liverpool, we haven't got a decent stadium like Man City had when they got taken over, we're not located in London etc etc. Now QPR new owner wants to build a new stadium in expensive SW London no less. Forest get bought by Kuwaitees seemingly with pots of money. So we're now back to the arguement as to the 'asking price' being too high!! Round and round in circles we go!!

Could have had a stadium that would have been a guaranteed money maker for £30mill mate, but again, he blew it.

 

[Stutheblue]

Could have had a stadium that would have been a guaranteed money maker for £30mill mate, but again, he blew it.

Too painful that episode!!

 

[zed]

It's the bleakest period in the club's history. Even bleaker than the relegation threatened period, as there was still at least hope we could - under the right ownership - recover our lost ground.

Basically what Kenwright and the other tvvats have done is to fritter away the tv revenue money as a means to avoid investing and innovating. It's been a massive and criminal waste of resources. The result: here we are in 2012 with a very nicely compensated manager who's fully on message with the owners and prepared to rummage through, what amounts in football terms, the bins up some back alley trying to get a squad together.

I dont even consider this to be Everton FC anymore, to be honest. It's just a hollowed out shell of a club corrupt from top to bottom with carpet bagger directors, freeloadeing team staff, and supporters who accept being shit on from a great height and who I'd fail to recognise as actually being Evertonians.

can you elaborate on this D. or is it just a sweeping statement