The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[davek]

Sorry but that's no consolation, time is against a lot of our supporters as well me included. I'd be into my 50's by then.

Oh, I know it's no consolation mate. I'm in the same boat as you, by the way. But it isn't going to change anytime soon if you think about it. Moyes is staying put; there's no movement on the directors/majority shareholders, who've held out for a stadium-build this long so a few more seasons will be tolerated; and the support by and large seem happy enough with making up the numbers in the PL.

It will change though...it's just that another generation will be the one's who celebrate it when it happens.

 

[kenada_blue]

Our head of communications says we're not that attractive commercially -

Few people asking me why buy notts forest and not Everton. Simple commercial numbers. Forest languishing in lower Championship has more -- Paul Tyrrell (@TyrrellPaul)

 

[Pblueman]

i hear what you're saying Davek lid, while the status quo has money coming in they are happy. The biggest perpatrator of this in my opinion is Phil Green, hes the real money man in there and from all accounts a nasty fecker. he is getting money so hes "feck it and do one"

 

[Brennan]

Our head of communications says we're not that attractive commercially -

Few people asking me why buy notts forest and not Everton. Simple commercial numbers. Forest languishing in lower Championship has more -- Paul Tyrrell (@TyrrellPaul)

Is he off his rocker ?

 

[davek]

i hear what you're saying Davek lid, while the status quo has money coming in they are happy. The biggest perpatrator of this in my opinion is Phil Green, hes the real money man in there and from all accounts a nasty fecker. he is getting money so hes "feck it and do one"

It's the bleakest period in the club's history. Even bleaker than the relegation threatened period, as there was still at least hope we could - under the right ownership - recover our lost ground.

Basically what Kenwright and the other tvvats have done is to fritter away the tv revenue money as a means to avoid investing and innovating. It's been a massive and criminal waste of resources. The result: here we are in 2012 with a very nicely compensated manager who's fully on message with the owners and prepared to rummage through, what amounts in football terms, the bins up some back alley trying to get a squad together.

I dont even consider this to be Everton FC anymore, to be honest. It's just a hollowed out shell of a club corrupt from top to bottom with carpet bagger directors, freeloadeing team staff, and supporters who accept being shit on from a great height and who I'd fail to recognise as actually being Evertonians.

 

[D410]

Our head of communications says we're not that attractive commercially -

Few people asking me why buy notts forest and not Everton. Simple commercial numbers. Forest languishing in lower Championship has more -- Paul Tyrrell (@TyrrellPaul)

HAHA - Ross must be laughing his socks off at that rebuttal from the club

We have no clue and our own staff are running down the club. Complete Panic mode at L4.

 

[davek]

Our head of communications says we're not that attractive commercially -

Few people asking me why buy notts forest and not Everton. Simple commercial numbers. Forest languishing in lower Championship has more -- Paul Tyrrell (@TyrrellPaul)

This is the calibre of people running what used to be known as Everton FC.

 

[kenada_blue]

Just confirms its down to the selling price.

Our head of comms has basically said - these Arabs have bought forest for 25mill, hope to get into the prem and hopefully forest will be worth double or 100mill+

Seems to me to confirm that our asking price doesn't relate in the slightest for a investor to buy us and hope to make some money

 

[davek]

Just confirms its down to the selling price.

Our head of comms has basically said - these Arabs have bought forest for 25mill, hope to get into the prem and hopefully forest will be worth double or 100mill+

Seems to me to confirm that our asking price doesn't relate in the slightest for a investor to buy us and hope to make some money

Everton bought for £20M from Johnson: zero investment from owners over the past 12 years = they want £150M.

 

[nigelcoyb]

It's a false premise that the Board can continue to sit and do nothing yet still expect to get a great pay day. Every day we fall further behind our rivals and the further we fall behind the greater the investment required to catch up. Furthermore we consistently lose money which further detracts investors from buying at a premium.

In business you can never afford to sit still because in doing so you fall behind your competitors. The fact is that this Board is destroying the equity value of their and our shares whilst hanging on for a completely irrational valuation. The longer they hang on the less the chance of them achieving their objectives and we the fans, ours.

It is commercial madness!

Sorry Esk you're looking at it from a fans point of view, when Earle rings Kenwright he asks 1 question:

"are we in danger of relegation?"

Everything about present day EFC is geared to that, the fans turn up clap Kenwright and we sell someone to cover the 5million shortfall!

Simples!!

It is complete guesswork about the attractiveness commercially of this club for all we know several serious interested parties approach every year but the terms don't suit BK and the kids so off they pop. BK whistling "plenty more fish in the sea".

One thing IS certain - football clubs sell - you'll never have a bigger example than Man City, in sh1t order when Shinawtra bought in and didn't even own a ground when Mansoor came along ffs.

This business/commercial model is irrelevant to the big fish - It's about ego and exposure - could our name and history provide that if adequately funded? Better than most I'd say, but there's a fly in the ointment somewhere my hunch is it's the amateurish BK.

 

[nigelcoyb]

I dont even consider this to be Everton FC anymore,

BULLSEYE!!

 

[The Esk]

Sorry Esk you're looking at it from a fans point of view, when Earle rings Kenwright he asks 1 question:

"are we in danger of relegation?"

Everything about present day EFC is geared to that, the fans turn up clap Kenwright and we sell someone to cover the 5million shortfall!

Simples!!

It is complete guesswork about the attractiveness commercially of this club for all we know several serious interested parties approach every year but the terms don't suit BK and the kids so off they pop. BK whistling "plenty more fish in the sea".

One thing IS certain - football clubs sell - you'll never have a bigger example than Man City, in sh1t order when Shinawtra bought in and didn't even own a ground when Mansoor came along ffs.

This business/commercial model is irrelevant to the big fish - It's about ego and exposure - could our name and history provide that if adequately funded? Better than most I'd say, but there's a fly in the ointment somewhere my hunch is it's the amateurish BK.

Every wealthy person or entrepreneur I have worked with or know never want to over-pay for any asset they are acquiring. They may be very happy to lose millions once they've bought what you quite rightly call a "trophy asset" but very very rarely do they allow the seller to walk away with considerably more than the acquired asset is worth.

Their ego's allow them to lose millions once they own the club but hardly ever allow them to part with too much cash to acquire the asset in the first place. It's all part of the successful investor psychology.

 

[Allezfan]

I dont even consider this to be Everton FC anymore, to be honest. It's just a hollowed out shell of a club corrupt from top to bottom with carpet bagger directors, freeloadeing team staff, and supporters who accept being shit on from a great height and who I'd fail to recognise as actually being Evertonians.

BULLSEYE!!

My eyes are rolling so hard, I might injure myself.

 

[nigelcoyb]

Every wealthy person or entrepreneur I have worked with or know never want to over-pay for any asset they are acquiring. They may be very happy to lose millions once they've bought what you quite rightly call a "trophy asset" but very very rarely do they allow the seller to walk away with considerably more than the acquired asset is worth.

Their ego's allow them to lose millions once they own the club but hardly ever allow them to part with too much cash to acquire the asset in the first place. It's all part of the successful investor psychology.

Agree entirely mate, from what I've seen on tv, plus that revealing BU interview, BK IS COMPLETELY out of his depth business wise, his false bon homie justifying whatever ludicrous terms his skull entertains would just reveal him as a shifty chancer trying it on with serious agents, an absolute deal killer.

 

[thebluefox]

Just confirms its down to the selling price.

Our head of comms has basically said - these Arabs have bought forest for 25mill, hope to get into the prem and hopefully forest will be worth double or 100mill+

Seems to me to confirm that our asking price doesn't relate in the slightest for a investor to buy us and hope to make some money

this is 100 per cent spot on ,as i said this time last year ,