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The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

Is it time for Change...???

  • Kenwright an the Board out, We need Change.

    Votes: 503 80.0%
  • Im Happy with the way thing are. Kenwright an the Board should stay

    Votes: 126 20.0%

  • Total voters
    629
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You're not exactly covering yourself in glory with that reply are you?! If anyone wanted a serious crack at buying the Blues from Kenwright and pals do you not think they have a ready made avenue to stir the pot by slipping a few details to the Blue Union lads? The fact there's been nothing of the sort is quite strong evidence to say such parties have never existed.

Are you claiming that Kenwright is lieing when he said he reguarly met up with interested would be investors who then disapeared when asked to pony up the money, then?
 
Are you claiming that Kenwright is lieing when he said he reguarly met up with interested would be investors who then disapeared when asked to pony up the money, then?


You can't be seriously trying to use that statement to support your argument? I take Kenwright at his word. I believe he goes out and meetsvarious people that express an interest. As well as fantasists and tyre kickers many will be put off once they realise how fragile the underlying business model is. And how difficult it is to make a profit at Goodison.
 
You can't be seriously trying to use that statement to support your argument? I take Kenwright at his word. I believe he goes out and meetsvarious people that express an interest. As well as fantasists and tyre kickers many will be put off once they realise how fragile the underlying business model is. And how difficult it is to make a profit at Goodison.

And for that reason, I'm out.
 

You can't be seriously trying to use that statement to support your argument? I take Kenwright at his word. I believe he goes out and meetsvarious people that express an interest. As well as fantasists and tyre kickers many will be put off once they realise how fragile the underlying business model is. And how difficult it is to make a profit at Goodison.

My argument is that our business plan is to keep losing money until kenwright can find someone who wants to invest and we haven't found anyone to invest in more than a decade of looking.

Therefore either it's a crap plan or we're going about it badly. The asking price charles green has heard would indicate the latter. The fact that kenwright has had numerous meetings and none have been interested would also indicate the latter. The number of other clubs to have been taken over in that time would also indicate the latter.

But hey lets assume the reason we have no investment is simply because noone wants to invest and our board have been more than reasonable. In which case kenwrights whole business plan is a failiure.
 
In the last ten years fifteen english clubs have spent more gross then us, 14 more net, 8 have higher wage bills and nine top flight clubs have less debt. And in terms of income ten get more money through sponsers, eight more through commercial means and eight more through tickets on match day. We make a loss every year so have to sell assets (our training ground, wayne rooney, mikel arteta etc just to make do)

So the answer would be any of the owners of the 15 clubs who outspend us would be better as they all earn more money and so spend more on the team.

Charles Green of Rangers claims that everton is only for sale for between 300 and 400 million pounds. If that's true then lots and lots of potential owners will pass us by because you can buy Man U for that money.




A good argument but I am not sure that quoting Charles Green from Rangers is a good way to go mate. Not convinced he knows anything and suggesting up to 400mil kind of backs that up. Kenwright may be greedy but he's not insane, I am sure he doesn't value us up there with the biggest clubs on the planet
 
A good argument but I am not sure that quoting Charles Green from Rangers is a good way to go mate. Not convinced he knows anything and suggesting up to 400mil kind of backs that up. Kenwright may be greedy but he's not insane, I am sure he doesn't value us up there with the biggest clubs on the planet

I doubt it's true myself, tbh. But it's the only figure anyone has given us.
 
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Here's one of Bill's ****wit mates, who at one time had the task of selling the club (or not as per the lies told to the Kirkby enquiry).

He reckons it will take in the region of £150M handed over to the main shareholders (think about how much they paid for their shares, the assets they've disposed of, and the debts they've built up to deserve this sort of mark up), and that's before the buyers deal with any debt and stadium redevelopment.

Thanks Bill, enjoy your yacht and retirement villas on us....
 
Thanks Bill, enjoy your yacht and retirement villas on us....

You sound quite bitter there mate.

So following your logic, Bill takes nothing out of the club for 11 years+, ignores some investors where presumably he'd have "only" made a few million but is banking it all on a logic-defying, all or nothing hundred million plus lottery win?

And at the same time all the senior management, other board members and various deal advisers are all going along with this pot of gold at the end of the rainbow story? 'cos surely whatever you think of Bill you'd recognise that the rest of them would all be getting a nice bonus should any reasonable sale be executed. That sounds a bit far fetched doesn't it?
 

My argument is that our business plan is to keep losing money until kenwright can find someone who wants to invest and we haven't found anyone to invest in more than a decade of looking.

Therefore either it's a crap plan or we're going about it badly. The asking price charles green has heard would indicate the latter. The fact that kenwright has had numerous meetings and none have been interested would also indicate the latter. The number of other clubs to have been taken over in that time would also indicate the latter.

But hey lets assume the reason we have no investment is simply because noone wants to invest and our board have been more than reasonable. In which case kenwrights whole business plan is a failiure.

Who said that's the business plan though? I thought it was more "do what we can to get the best playing squad we can manage". Debt and making a loss is all relative. Yes of course it's important for a P&L basis, but we're sitting well at the upper end of the table in the richest league in the world. The club is obviously worth more now than it was 11 years ago because the value/perception of the league has improved.
 
Anyone who pays £150 million for the main shareholder shares at Everton is mad.
I wouldnt want them as our chairman, it would be an insane price to pay.
It would make them as mad as kenwright.


But then again, no one is that mad.
No one except kenwright the 'biggest' blue who only wants to make a massive profit.
Thats what the worlds biggest blue wants to do, make a huge personal gain from his beloved club while stagnating the finances and selling as many assets as he can along the way to keep the banks away.

Kenwright remains our biggest enemy.
 
Who said that's the business plan though? I thought it was more "do what we can to get the best playing squad we can manage". Debt and making a loss is all relative. Yes of course it's important for a P&L basis, but we're sitting well at the upper end of the table in the richest league in the world. The club is obviously worth more now than it was 11 years ago because the value/perception of the league has improved.

7th is not a victory. Winning no trohpies since 1995 is not a victory.
 

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