The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[Blue_Berry]

Seville rejected a 12million euro bid from us for Negredo.

We went after 2 players and 1 championship player. 3 targets that suited our transfer pay structure.

Stick your head I am the sand all you want.

Ain't sticking my head in the sand mate. I can see there was money to spend and that we went after a number of targets, but I don't know what financial constraints we had or how many players we ultimately could afford. And neither do you.

I'm struggling to remember what point we're arguing here!

 

[kenada_blue]

Ain't sticking my head in the sand mate. I can see there was money to spend and that we went after a number of targets, but I don't know what financial constraints we had or how many players we ultimately could afford. And neither do you.

I'm struggling to remember what point we're arguing here!

We tried buying £10million+ players with about £3 million or less.

 

[toffeeben15]

Theres got to be some buisness in summer or the board will face a backlash from the fans . Just prey to god that our injury spells are over and we can kick on

 

[kenada_blue]

It's unlikely to be money we don't have mate. If it really is the case, then yes, they deserve to be taken out and shot in the yard. As per Ridsdale at Leeds. Do you really imagine that is the case here, that there is no spending control and that the banks would allow them to spend unaccounted or uncommitted money?

And I do to be fair. We make a loss and have debt. We won't be spending new money on players, we will be looking long term deals where player sales will cover a payment or two.

Then there's Moyes, who's contact is up, and the Board won't to show willing they're backing him.

 

[Dell Boy]

We tried buying £10million+ players with about £3 million or less.

FFS that's not the core problem. I'd wager 90% of clubs pay their fees that way. It's standard business practice.

 

[kenada_blue]

FFS that's not the core problem. I'd wager 90% of clubs pay their fees that way. It's standard business practice.

On the pre tense we will have the full fee in the future. Do we have that? Or are we juggling balls based on earnings down the line.

Of course everyone pays in instalments. But we've got to look at where this phantom transfer fees are gonna come from.

It could be scary imo. If we had paraded we had no money, fine. But yesterday we were throwing about double figures like it was a regular thing. I couldve done that years ago

It's odd.

 

[edge]

getting away from if we had or havnt got money we have had months to plan for this window once it became apparent we were in with a shot of 4th,the club should have made sure the deals were in place to give us a decent chance,nothing major just two or three decent signings to add a bit of depth to the squad,the rewards for getting a champs lg spot could have set the club up for the next few years, helped keep are stars and may be are manger and attract other quality player,moyes said last time we got 4th he was supprised at the number & quality of the players offerd to the club, once again we are left short of any clear sign that this board can help the club move forwards,hope im proved wrong and we get there but i feel are squad size will come back to haunt us in the run in and it will be another chance missed.

 

[kenada_blue]

getting away from if we had or havnt got money we have had months to plan for this window once it became apparent we were in with a shot of 4th,the club should have made sure the deals were in place to give us a decent chance,nothing major just two or three decent signings to add a bit of depth to the squad,the rewards for getting a champs lg spot could have set the club up for the next few years, helped keep are stars and may be are manger and attract other quality player,moyes said last time we got 4th he was supprised at the number & quality of the players offerd to the club, once again we are left short of any clear sign that this board can help the club move forwards,hope im proved wrong and we get there but i feel are squad size will come back to haunt us in the run in and it will be another chance missed.

I think it was planned. I just think whatever list of players anyone had got slashed in to 3 players based on their clubs willing to discuss how we make payments and the amount.

How else would we just make zero bids for anyone else.

Not even a loan. A LOAN

 

[Dell Boy]

On the pre tense we will have the full fee in the future. Do we have that? Or are we juggling balls based on earnings down the line.

Of course we have the cash down the line. Like any football club save for a few it will relate to future earnings. Our credit rating is also probably half decent compared to a lot of other clubs at the minute!

 

[Dell Boy]

How else would we just make zero bids for anyone else.

Not even a loan. A LOAN

To be clear though I'm as p*ssed off with the board this morning as I have been in a very long time.

 

[kenada_blue]

Of course we have the cash down the line. Like any football club save for a few it will relate to future earnings. Our credit rating is also probably half decent compared to a lot of other clubs at the minute!

We could've done the same years ago though. Why now? The new TV money can't be that amazing we can pull 12mill out of our arse

Last season we couldn't get a few mill together without selling.

 

[GwladysBlue]

Theres got to be some buisness in summer or the board will face a backlash from the fans . Just prey to god that our injury spells are over and we can kick on

Hopefully the useless idiots won't be here in the summer.

 

[ArtetaMagic]

Terrible management. I can see their thinking in leaving it to the end of the transfer window but my god did it come back and bite them. Why cant they think like we should do the business early not only so we dont run the risk of being left with no one but we would have had that extra player or 2 for the last 4 weeks.

 

[Stend]

To be honest noises coming from Barnsley we've got a future star and this window did see us throw a few bids around. This squad is more than good enough to push on as it is. A couple of quality additions may have been a boost. But these lads are 5th in the table as it is. Spurs and Arsenal never improved their attacking options. Therefore we're in pretty much the same boat as those two.

More annoying is the fact that the ****e have gone and spent £20m again.

 

[Blue_Berry]

On the pre tense we will have the full fee in the future. Do we have that? Or are we juggling balls based on earnings down the line.

Of course everyone pays in instalments. But we've got to look at where this phantom transfer fees are gonna come from.

It could be scary imo. If we had paraded we had no money, fine. But yesterday we were throwing about double figures like it was a regular thing. I couldve done that years ago

It's odd.

Sorry to labour this mate, but here precisely is the point. You nor I nor 99% of the posters on here have any clue what the real financial position is, what cash is committed now, what will be available in the future, how much of what we spend now is a gamble (committing money we don't definitively know will appear). You have no right to call them 'phantom' transfer fees unless you really are on the inside at the table with Elstone, Moyes and Kenwright. And I'll assume you're not.

You can speculate that they are spending money they don't have, and that's your right. I wouldn't agree with you personally, and if someone proved it then of course we'd all see, but we're never likely to get that public disclosure. I simply don't think the banks, who now surely must have such a hold on what we can spend, would allow them to play fast and loose with money they don't have, given the amount they're already owed.

Banks may take a view on known future cashflows (eg Sky / TV money that is committed) and lend against it - that's what they do (take risks, and get paid for it). Sure, the banks will protect themselves first (ie. take a senior charge over future receivables), but even so it's a long stretch to believe they'd allow the club to endanger itself financially while they're funding.

Unless there's ANOTHER source of cash in play.....