The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[Gibbo4]

Being pedantic but it's not racism mate

He is an utter weapon and an odious little [Poor language removed] though who I don't want anywhere near our club

His comments meet the very definition of the word. Look up the meaning of the word.

 

[bluestevon]

His comments meet the very definition of the word. Look up the meaning of the word.

Think you need to look up what Racism is mate, being anti Irish could be being a Irishphobe, Anti-Irish, even xenephobia. or the most suitable word is he is a bigot

Race - Each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics

Racism - Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.


If he was using Celtic in his insults then yeah he would be being racist mate

He was using Irish in his comments - its a nationality, probably about 90% of people on this forum coming from Liverpool have Irish ancestry but it doesn't make them Irish mate

The idea that the Irish are a race is a utter fabrication, one probably given a lot of credence by the Irish Americans, it is not or never will be a race of people, its a bloody country

 

[tonyhorne]

he also has a history of questionable business practices, including his dubious relationship with ourselves. I don't think this is the kind of character who we should want to be associated with our club.

If you are going to rule out everyone with a history of possible dodgy business practices the only ones left will be those who have never succeeded in business.........

 

[Sharpys top lip]

It baffles me that people think there is some Fairy Godmother out there who will wave a magic wand and EFC will have lots of money, a shiney new stadium and UCL football. Get a grip and look where we have come from and where we are now. Look at our financial position versus other similar clubs. Look at the squad we have. Look at the Youth set up. Look at the coaches. look at the Community work. Look at the season ticket sales. Look at Villa, Newcastle, Sunderland etc etc They would give their eye teeth to be where we are.

an this is what I mean. What an idiot...

 

[4737carlin]

Being pedantic but it's not racism mate

He is an utter weapon and an odious little [Poor language removed] though who I don't want anywhere near our club

Well if we want a buy with proper coin that chances of getting one who isnt a bit of a poor language in one way or another is pretty much zilch.

 

[Gibbo4]

Think you need to look up what Racism is mate, being anti Irish could be being a Irishphobe, Anti-Irish, even xenephobia. or the most suitable word is he is a bigot

Race - Each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics

Racism - Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.


If he was using Celtic in his insults then yeah he would be being racist mate

He was using Irish in his comments - its a nationality, probably about 90% of people on this forum coming from Liverpool have Irish ancestry but it doesn't make them Irish mate

The idea that the Irish are a race is a utter fabrication, one probably given a lot of credence by the Irish Americans, it is not or never will be a race of people, its a bloody country

Oh dear. So many things wrong with your post.

He's using Irish to refer to someone of Irish ancestry. Paul Murphy is a journalist born and raised in England. He is referring to the Irish ethnic group.

Definition of race:
Race is a classification system used to categorize humans into large and distinct populations or groups by anatomical, cultural, ethnic, genetic, geographical, historical, linguistic, religious, and/or social affiliation.

Here's some advice mate. Educate yourself before you go around accusing other people of being wrong.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

With Bill Kenwright as Chairman...

The only thing not for sale at Everton.....

IS EVERTON..!!!!!!

#KENWRIGHTOUT

 

[bluemangroup]

I did in my posts last night say that the continual lack of money was a separate issue to the manager failing to spend all of it in this transfer window just gone.

Were owned by a mix of people who either can't or won't invest in the club out of their own wealth. That's a fact. Coupled our inability to generate top of the class income from our ground and support it leaves us firmly in a massive soup of clubs aspiring to have a day in the sun by bridging that gap through either years of smart moves, money or fluke.

The stats are sobering because few seldom achieve it and none ever sustain it.

So while its nice to be playing ace footie and at the right end of the table its a shot in the arm rather than the long term progress and consolodation you want/expect from an Everton team. I liked Martinez's comments about not being ashamed at competing for the title as weve won nine of them so its nothing new to us.

As things stand we won't be getting near that league title for a very long time. The Champions League is a bit easier but again as I said those odds are stocked against us.

Its not for me to tell you how to support Everton so all you can do is say how you think and aspire Everton to be. I've seen Everton win a couple of league titles in my life and a European trophy. I'd like more of that naturally.

There's been calls for change and still and ongoing effort by a bunch of blues to enable that change. As first I didn't like their approach but in time its a bunch of blues as passionate about the club as you or I.

There's been a worrying trend in the past couple of years where blues try and push each other into two well defined opposite stances. Either Pro board or anti board, with no grey area in the middle. The fact is that a vast majority of match going Evertonians are in that middle, and again I won't criticise as its their choice. They're moderates and there's nothing wrong with that.

I do believe that the current people owning the club benefit from that for as long as we swerve a true relegation battle or enforced firesale at the club then there's sufficient lack of ambition through a nineties Everton hangover (again not criticising just my opinion) that goodwill is generated by competing at the right end of the league.

In the meantime its ticking over and will be nineteen years without a trophy this summer if we fail to win the FA Cup this year. I'd really like someone to come in - not a bell - and really have a go at restoring Everton to their default position through the history of football in the country. If there are no apparent buyers then that would point to the asking price being too high. Simple business QED. I don't know them enough to second guess their motives behind not doing this. I'm disappointed repeatedly with our inability to invest in the team/club. It cheapens us.

I want that change but I also have to realise that unless the fanbase pushes for it to happen then its not so forthcoming. What we need to swerve doing is fragmenting the fanbase further. If like me you want that change then we will never achieve it by antagonising fellow blues who are sound with the current set up. It breeds hostility towards those trying to rally Evertonians together to help push for that change which would be a sad outcome as there's some good work being done constructively.

I swerve this thread because it becomes a virtual Groundhog Day or to and forth and then barbed insults. But there, off the fence for a moment you bells.

Did not read LOL.

 

[Bungle]

Bill has done an excellent job with the resources he has available, couldn't have asked for a better chairman to have come in and rescued us when he did. He might not offer the millions we need to progress to the next level but I'd sure prefer him to a Carson Yeung type owner.

Bill will come good in the end and find us the right man to take over, but until he does I'm happy with him keeping things ticking over.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

If Bill was chinese, american or Asian. Do you think people would put up with his lies annthe fact hes sold an morgaged everything we own. An that all the money we make gos to servicing debts hes laid on us...

Is it the fact he a 'Evertonian' an sat in the boys pen...an watched.....blah blah blah blah

So we let him do what he wants...

 

[steken1]

I can sympathise with Bill to some extent, I'm stuck in a similar situation.

I put my car in the auto-trader a while back, not sure how long exactly, probably about 14 years.


Haven't had a single serious offer. I know that car inside out too, a few agencies have approached, but nobody could sell it better than me.

I suppose nobodys buying cars these days!


If anyone's struggling to grasp my point, it's this........................................Take them to webuyanycar.com James Corden does the voice over and you'll save on part-ex ing it.

 

[Steve Wigan]

an this is what I mean. What an idiot...

Your final word above. I don't think youre allowed to use that word on here, and you'll probably hear from admin. People are entitled to state opposite views on here without personal abuse, the fact that some ignore this common sense attitude lessens the credibility of the debate, and as the Blue Union know, once you lose your credibility..........

 

[Jacko93]

I can sympathise with Bill to some extent, I'm stuck in a similar situation.

I put my car in the auto-trader a while back, not sure how long exactly, probably about 14 years.


Haven't had a single serious offer. I know that car inside out too, a few agencies have approached, but nobody could sell it better than me.

I suppose nobodys buying cars these days!


If anyone's struggling to grasp my point, it's this........................................Take them to webuyanycar.com James Corden does the voice over and you'll save on part-ex ing it.

I get your point, sell it for 70% of its actual worth and if it doesn't get sold at auction, it gets crushed.

That right?

 

[bluemangroup]

I just don't want Bill to finally sell and for us to end up with the Venkys or some such. We are stable at the moment and I think anyone wanting that step further are being a bit greedy frankly. It might just be that a suitable buyer isn't out there.

 

[Bungle]

If Bill was chinese, american or Asian. Do you think people would put up with his lies annthe fact hes sold an morgaged everything we own. An that all the money we make gos to servicing debts hes laid on us...

Is it the fact he a 'Evertonian' an sat in the boys pen...an watched.....blah blah blah blah

So we let him do what he wants...

We don't have to let him do what he wants, but we do have to appreciate the job he's done thus far.

I'd rather we had all the money in the world to invest in the team, but I can't bring myself to march down the road with a clown and a cake.