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The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

Is it time for Change...???

  • Kenwright an the Board out, We need Change.

    Votes: 503 80.0%
  • Im Happy with the way thing are. Kenwright an the Board should stay

    Votes: 126 20.0%

  • Total voters
    629
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Passion gets you clink time. I doubt we will sign anyone unless it's loans again, which is a painful experience but seems to be the way we are operating.

How can that be right? How as a club can we make the money we do, sell players for big amounts an reinvest nothing!!

The BIGGEST gripe for me is the fans. People like that idiot %^$£* who defends this board no matter what. How can you defend the undefendable...

I dont get it.
 
If they have to spend it on other things, tell us what other things, instead of coming out with "I dont know".

Pretty much my view that. Would just like to know. Not down to every paperclip, but just these seemingly large amounts that do not seem to be accountable for some reason.
 
@Sharpys top lip as fat head azul says, we are sailing along on the crest of two seemingly excellent appointments, and part luck and part excellent transfer work, we tread a fine line between success and failure for our club, we float between 4th and 7th without serious investment and have done for as long as I can recall, post Moyes of course.

I genuinely think one of two things

1. You can't have a fan as a chairmen who can't let go of the club he loves because of the seemingly poor ownership deals he has seen

2. Won't sell because he wants too much, this one I don't believe, purely because dealing with billionaires and investment isn't a short term return, it's down to the shadowy characters who want a bigger return for the menial investments. None of which is their own cash.


It boils down to money, until investment comes in the form of part ownership then Bill will NEVER sell his majority share.
 
i hate that as Evertonians were split. I hate the bickering an arguments over whats going on. I had 4 yrs of it over Moyes. I hated him for what he an Kenwright had done to our club an fans. We accept 2nd best no matter what.

'Taking a knife to a gun fight' is the most dispicable piece of %^&&$ iv ever heard from anyone concerning Everton. The day he left i was so happy, i letf Goodison early v West Ham as so not to clap him. remembe he left knowing he was going to United an walked for free.

I will never rest untill Kenwright has gone to. just like Moyes when the blues shades are off an peoplle realise how long he held us back and the truth comes out. Once again i know i will feel vindicated. He got away with it for far to long. I want teh best for my club, i want to take my son when hes old enough to watch a team fighting for top honers.

NILSATIS NISIOPTIMUM still means somthing to some of us.
 

@Steve Wigan

I've separated your response out for you mate

1) Fabricated incoming investment and scammed a shareholders AGM with a talk from a false prospective investor, Samuelson, later acknowledged as a "means to an end"

A means to an end.....accptable business practice to get rid of a greedy manipulator

No it's completely unacceptable, verging on illegal business practice to intentionally mislead fellow shareholders. Why try to argue differently and how does this lead you to trust Bill ?

2) Clearly lied to all project partners, the media, and fans, that the £30M minimal investment required for the Kings Dock was "ringfenced"

Ringfenced in as much as it was available if the banks agreed to the terms of the deal, which they didn't. Do you really think that Bill had £30 million in his back pocket ready to turn over to Gregg?

So the ringfenced money didn't exist, and would only ever exist on the say so of banks not yet obtained. Blatant bull from the king of crap and this leads you to trust him ?

3) Quite likely encouraged media vilification of Paul Gregg to force him off the board (badly done to first family in The Echo ffs)

'Quite likely'? In other words you made it up. The media didn't need any help in respect of Paul Gregg.

Didn't make up the media campaign, it's timing, nor the inside acknowledgement that our board uses media manipulation (see Ross's emails). If someone is is low enough to do that to friends/colleagues what else are they capable of ?

4) Encouraged media manipulation of the fanbase and vilification of certain fan groups (see Ross's email leaks)

Evidence please ?

Ross's emails, his sacking immediately after, and being published on various websites without legal action is the evidence. Why try denying that, you've only briefly met Bill at the theatre once ?

5) Skewed a fans vote on moving to Kirkby by utter bull about the stadium being world class and effectively free

When a faction loses a vote, its not uncommon to cry 'foul' I wasn't personally in favour of DK, put at the time it was the only game in town. I think there are more options now, but the usual suspects will agitate against wherever the stadium is.I would like to see GP redeveloped...but its a difficult one

The "vote losers" weren't the ones in writing that the stadium would be world class and effectively free though. Why avoid the point ?

6) Replaces Gregg with the introduction of well known football enthusiast and serial bankrupt, Robert Earl who has offices in the BVI

Currently not a bankrupt, and many of our leading businessmen have been bankrupt at least once. It happens. Whats wrong with having offices in the BVI ?

Just shows the type of businessmen...those that like to avoid declaration of their ownership interests and tax implications. But you find that fine for an EFC co owner ?

7) Allows the club to take loans from Vibrac based in the BVI (owners/directors not disclosable)

Vibrac specialty is loans to football clubs.

Certain types of clubs. Did you notice that Earl is also based in the BVI btw ?

8) Alleges he has no idea on the composition of Other Operating Costs

Neither do any other Chairmen, its in the brief of the CEO. Evertons OOC is more detailed in the accounts than a lot of clubs

The CEO brief is to manage OOC's but chairmen should have a good overview and working knowledge. The answer "I have no idea what OOC's are" is only acceptable in Toytown. What is the detailed split of OOC's in the accounts you're referring to ?

9) Sold Rooney at well below market value at a time he had tolerated the club being riddled with Proactive shareholders (even the Chief Exec)

It was the first time ProActive had showed their hand, but the Rooney deal in the circumstances was not too bad( a few years ago now...). Stretford was the force....ProActive had an office inside St James Park...hence the stalking horse bid for Rooney.

Proactive office in St James....alert........various proactive shareholders including Dunford at Everton......no alert
 
Don't be daft. As has been said time and time again if you're that convinced something dodgy is in OOC then you should report the club to the relevant authorities. Auditors check those numbers and are given full access to spending, so unless they're being paid off (perhaps that is part of the OOCs...) then that claim is a stupid one.

Those costs fell this year regardless.

Could you explain to me how those costs fell?

Just out of curiosity.
 


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