Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
Luck or not, the fact remains that the club broke even last year and has just seen it's income increase by £34m. So he's no longer in a 'mess' is he?
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Luck or not, the fact remains that the club broke even last year and has just seen it's income increase by £34m. So he's no longer in a 'mess' is he?
It was not the Zingarevich family, they denied any involvement but Bill spoke well about the son in the family saying he had a wealth of knowledge regarding football. He was about 23 at the time this lad.
The FSF had the likes of Robert Steelhammer, who sounded like he was in the X-men in a previous life. Samuelson, file under " Dodgy as "
Sharpys top lip
Player Valuation: £60m
The only thing not for sale at Everton.....
Is EVERTON!!
When he fails to deliver this summer, then what?
Is EVERTON!!
When he fails to deliver this summer, then what?
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
Samuelson openly said it was Boris Zingarevich in '12 when discussing Anton's purchase of Reading.
But we don't necessarily disagree with the concept of Kenwright out. Some may be more passionate about that, others less so, but rather than turning on those that disagree, why don't you focus your energies on resurrecting KEIOC or the Blue Union and try to spread the word.
You're correct, we don't own enough, and our commercial side leaves much to be desired. Our media presence is laughable. These are all facts. These cannot be reasonably argued against. So educate and inform, don't condescend by referring to those that disagree as 'happy clappers'. You'll find that doing so will simply cause the opposition to write you off and become more intractable.
Everton can be run more effectively. It's apparent to pretty much anyone that follows the club closely, but shouting Kenwright out a bunch has done nothing to improve the club for many years now. It's time for a new tact in my opinion, one that is less hostile and more inclusive.
Your calls to action are difficult to respond to, you say things like: When he fails to deliver this summer, then what?
I say, I dunno Sharpy - then what? What would you have us do if we all agreed with you? Give me alternatives. Give me options. Don't just shout at me that I should be mad about a chairman that by the only metric that most fans care about (points totals) has presided over a significant performance increase.
It should be more. What do we do about it?
Oh, we will make signings this summer. I have no doubt about it. But remember the words our CEO said last season, we aim to sell players with the majority of the cash up front. While we buy players over the lenght of the contract " Ala Felli "
We will buys players, but we will also be buying them in a way which will affect the next few transfers windows. We will be back to sell to buy, but it could be a gamble that pays off if Roberto signs the right players.
Lukaku is a must at 25 million, we should have tied that up. We will regret that soon i'm afraid.
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
Then he'll have nowhere to hide will he.....
As unlike previous years, there's no valid financial reason why the manager shouldn't be backed this summer.
In company law, a shadow director is someone who is not a named director but who directs or controls the company; this is what the Companies Act says about the identification of shadow directors:
The Companies Act defines a shadow director as a person who instructs other directors what to do and those directors follow his instructions. Individuals who act in this way are deemed to have the same liabilities as properly appointed directors. A shadow director can be any person, but are usually majority shareholders that threaten to replace them if they do not follow their instructions.
Directors have an obligation to act in the company's best interests.
The Companies Act defines a shadow director as a person who instructs other directors what to do and those directors follow his instructions. Individuals who act in this way are deemed to have the same liabilities as properly appointed directors. A shadow director can be any person, but are usually majority shareholders that threaten to replace them if they do not follow their instructions.
Directors have an obligation to act in the company's best interests.
It was Boris who denied that he was involved with the FSF, I know Anton was spotted at an Everton game and Bill spoke about him in the press.
Chang Elephant
Forum God
1) Fabricated incoming investment and scammed a shareholders AGM with a talk from a false prospective investor, Samuelson, later acknowledged as a "means to an end"
2) Clearly lied to all project partners, the media, and fans, that the £30M minimal investment required for the Kings Dock was "ringfenced"
3) Quite likely encouraged media vilification of Paul Gregg to force him off the board (badly done to first family in The Echo ffs)
4) Encouraged media manipulation of the fanbase and vilification of certain fan groups (see Ross's email leaks)
5) Skewed a fans vote on moving to Kirkby by utter bull about the stadium being world class and effectively free
6) Replaces Gregg with the introduction of well known football enthusiast and serial bankrupt, Robert Earl who has offices in the BVI
7) Allows the club to take loans from Vibrac based in the BVI (owners/directors not disclosable)
8) Alleges he has no idea on the composition of Other Operating Costs
9) Sold Rooney at well below market value at a time he had tolerated the club being riddled with Proactive shareholders (even the Chief Exec)
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
You'd better tell Samuleson that then mate, as he openly stated it was Boris.
“It’s completely different this time. There was a very good reason why Boris Zingarevich withdrew from the transaction."
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...financier-behind-ill-fated-everton-fc-3356079
I'll stick to Boris
Zingarevich's spokesman added: "Normally, we would not comment on the situation around individual shareholders, but this is not normal.
"I can say that Boris Zingarevich is not planning to buy directly or indirectly assets abroad, I mean sports clubs.
"And this applies to his son and any investment funds as well."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/e/everton/3592538.stm
Chang Elephant
Forum God
Someone tell Guy de la Tour du Pin !
Steve Wigan
Player Valuation: £35m
You see..you're making the fatal mistake that others are making...you are accusing Robert Earl of dipping is hand into the till at Everton , a serious accusation about which you should go to the police, taking your evidence with you. The more sensible, but still not proven, and not illegal situation you could have highlighted was that the loan from the BVI COULD have come from a company in which Earl has an interest. Still not illegal, though, and not a proven fact (unless someone can link to the evidence. Instead of looking for real evidence , you and some others would rather play Cops and Robbers , were the merry handful of real usuals are the good Cops, and the Everton board are the robbers.
I don't doubt this. Could you provide sources? I don't know of these happenings (forgive me, I've only recently become interested in the business side of the club).
Yes, this was a lie. It sounds from various accounts of Bill's dramatic tendencies getting him in hot water, but it was a lie, and this should be made clear to supporters if you would like change.
No evidence. Even if it happened, you will require evidence before it can be used as a stick.
Linky? I have seen a number of mentions of these leaks, so I have no reason to disbelieve you, but links would help both me and others that haven't seen this for themselves.
Eh. Marketing. This would be the same regardless of owner. We didn't move to Kirkby.
He replaced Gregg? Didn't Gregg own shares? Bill forced him to sell to Earl? How?
First piece that seems properly shady. If Earl is using the club as a tax shelter or something, but we lack evidence of wrongdoing again. It may be there, but there is no clear evidence. Circumstantial at best.
I wouldn't expect him to. Everton is a rather larger business, and he is the chairman, not the Chief Financial Officer, nor is he in the Finance department. I would expect he has access to that information, but not that he would know it offhand.
Poor business? Yes. Nefarious? Doesn't seem likely.
So there are some things that seem shady. But still no hard evidence. And I'm not even really requiring hard evidence. I'm suggesting that if you want change, you should present a solution rather than simply demanding change.
Is Bill Out the final answer for you? Are you completely anti-Bill, or would Bill + growing Everton's market appeal + investment work for you? I understand that you believe that the second choice is not a choice at all, though, so I get it.
It seems like supporters in the UK actually wield considerable power (at least compared to the US). So why doesn't the Blue Union reform under a new name with a clear goal of educating Evertonians to the situation occurring in the halls of Goodison power to enact positive change? Is this something that's feasible? Or are we just gnashing our teeth because we haven't signed Lukaku?
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