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GrandOldTeam said:
Moshiri's first task was to try and bring Monchi here. Couldn't, turned to Walsh who to be fair - was incredibly well rated but typical we give him a job he hadn't done before, mind. If ever anything summed up Moshiri.
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Monchi also doesn't seem to be getting the same plaudits he did when we were first linked.

He got bombed out of Roma, and hasn't had entirely the same uninterrupted success he had in his first stint with Seville.
 
Efcjake said:
Monchi also doesn't seem to be getting the same plaudits he did when we were first linked.

He got bombed out of Roma, and hasn't had entirely the same uninterrupted success he had in his first stint with Seville.
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Hey believe it or not - Monchi had constant disagreements with Roma's owner at the time lol Much like Brands with our owner/chairman wombo combo.

He's doing okay, there is literally no one in the history of the game that can provide ONLY successes. They're very competitive and spend a lot less than they sell for, so I guess in a way he's doing exactly what's asked of him.
 

We are just a few short weeks away from finding out if we are a premiership club next season.
If we stay in the premiership we have a certain value but a substantially smaller one if relegated.

Unless Moshiri believes the FA will relegate us even if we survive on the football field then he would be taking a huge risk selling now at what will be a haircut price.
 
DualityNSNO said:
It is but our current board won't allow this approach to work due to ego or just being weird.
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They've just implemented it really badly. We've made lots of signings who theoretically fit into this idea but very few of them have actually worked out because our recruitment has been dire.

The point is just that it's a very basic business model 'buy low, sell high' and yet people talk about it as if it's some revolutionary new idea that got dreamt up by a random director of football a couple of years ago. The issue is that everyone effectively wants to work this way, but it's actually quite difficult to do. Just saying it's how you work and it being a sustainable model for the club are not the same thing, which is what we've found unfortunately.
 
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Lanolin said:
They've just implemented it really badly. We've made lots of signings who theoretically fit into this idea but very few of them have actually worked out because our recruitment has been dire.

The point is just that it's a very basic business model 'buy low, sell high' and yet people talk about it as if it's some revolutionary new idea that got dreamt up by a random director of football a couple of years ago. The issue is that everyone effectively wants to work this way, but it's actually quite difficult to do. Just saying it's how you work and it being a sustainable model for the clu are not the same thing, which is what we've found unfortunately.
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I mean our recruitment has been dire because we have barely any scouting and allow barely any freedom to a DoF in the role a DoF should be while completely undermining them - Kenwrong and Moshiri kept doing transfers for some reason while both Brands and Walsh (who had good reputation when he came ot us) were here. We have barely any scouts it seems, which is also a very obvious problem.
Same with Kopite Kev currently - apparently "doing bits" but unable to find ANY strikers in Europe somehow lol as he also has no idea what a scouting department is.

We have no idea how to operate as a club because the rot at the top is stuck in the days of old and that won't change until the top of the chain changes its ways, which will only happen if they are gone (and more likely in the case of Kenwright - when he dies, as he's a cancer to us) as that's what the last few years worth of "good times" show.

It's obviously not some sort of magic wand solution and it will take time to be fully implemented, not saying it's mega easy, but honestly it's not that hard either, is it? If teams all over the place can do it at least to some extent but we obviously are unable to - is it not us who are badly failing, not the method, so to say? Teams spend money on scouting/youth and it pays off in a year or two, we're spending 30m+ on Iwobi's while we play no youngsters and wondering why we're skint and about to be relegated like lol
 

DualityNSNO said:
I mean our recruitment has been dire because we have barely any scouting and allow barely any freedom to a DoF in the role a DoF should be while completely undermining them - Kenwrong and Moshiri kept doing transfers for some reason while both Brands and Walsh (who had good reputation when he came ot us) were here. We have barely any scouts it seems, which is also a very obvious problem.
Same with Kopite Kev currently - apparently "doing bits" but unable to find ANY strikers in Europe somehow lol as he also has no idea what a scouting department is.

We have no idea how to operate as a club because the rot at the top is stuck in the days of old and that won't change until the top of the chain changes its ways, which will only happen if they are gone (and more likely in the case of Kenwright - when he dies, as he's a cancer to us) as that's what the last few years worth of "good times" show.

It's obviously not some sort of magic wand solution and it will take time to be fully implemented, not saying it's mega easy, but honestly it's not that hard either, is it? If teams all over the place can do it at least to some extent but we obviously are unable to - is it not us who are badly failing, not the method, so to say? Teams spend money on scouting/youth and it pays off in a year or two, we're spending 30m+ on Iwobi's while we play no youngsters and wondering why we're skint and about to be relegated like lol
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I don't think we really know how that side of the club is run to be fair. It's not working, but it feels a bit reductive to just jump to the easy conclusion of saying we don't scout people. Obviously we all know about the likes of Iwobi, Sigurdsson and Bolasie being wastes of money as 'PL proven' players, but like i said, there are lots of players who would theoretically fit into the category we're talking about. On paper Klaasen, Sandro, Vlasic, Lookman, Nkounkou, Branthwaite, Patterson, Mykolenko, Garner, Onana, McNeil, Gbamin and plenty of others all fit the sort of profile we're talking about to different extents, but very few of them have actually been a success here, and a number of them haven't really gone on to show that it was just the environment here that was the issue either, it's more that we've just not got the recruitment side of it right. Again, while we've been particularly bad at it, we're far from the only ones. It's a staggeringly simple model in theory but it's not that easy to do it well, otherwise everyone would do it because like I said, it's common sense.
 
We're unlike any other club in European Football.
Our situation is dire. Any schmo could walk in and I would feel instantly better about us, as long as the current toads are booted out.
Once you get past that high though, all of the same problems still exist, and there is no quick fix to this long term plummet of ours.
It really is a chore seeing any hope in us atm
 
The one thing i like about this is that we'd be the crowning jewel and have our own scouting network throughout Europe and South America via these other teams owned by 777.

KInd of like a Red Bull i suppose.
 

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